Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #120 – January 07, 2014, 08:09:26 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on January 07, 2014, 06:08:16 pmGarlett is a walk up start imo.agree, pace and and game breaker when he is on. I have a feeling he will got to the next level minus Eddie. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #121 – January 07, 2014, 08:25:11 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on January 07, 2014, 08:09:26 pmQuote from: flyboy77 – on January 07, 2014, 06:08:16 pmGarlett is a walk up start imo.agree, pace and and game breaker when he is on. I have a feeling he will got to the next level minus Eddie.Both him and Yaz went to another level in the games Betts missed I reckon. Yaz Smashed Russell in that game against the Pies and took home 3 votes against the Weagles two weeks later. Garlett was AA in the first 10 games or so of the year around the time Betts missed those 6 games. Really looking forward to not having Betts to be honest, although I loved him as a Blue. Quote Selected Last Edit: January 07, 2014, 08:26:42 pm by MilkIt
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #122 – January 07, 2014, 08:48:06 pm If it takes one missing player to let two other players become super stars, then I say bring it on. Yarran and Garlett can be absolute freaks. Betts was very good but they have an opportunity to be even better. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #123 – January 07, 2014, 09:30:02 pm Quote from: Mantis – on January 07, 2014, 08:48:06 pmIf it takes one missing player to let two other players become super stars, then I say bring it on. Yarran and Garlett can be absolute freaks. Betts was very good but they have an opportunity to be even better.I think Garlett could be better than Betts. At the same age, Garlett has kicked 171 goals and Betts 165, but Betts had played 22 more games than him. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #124 – January 07, 2014, 09:44:31 pm Quote from: MilkIt – on January 07, 2014, 09:30:02 pmQuote from: Mantis – on January 07, 2014, 08:48:06 pmIf it takes one missing player to let two other players become super stars, then I say bring it on. Yarran and Garlett can be absolute freaks. Betts was very good but they have an opportunity to be even better.I think Garlett could be better than Betts. At the same age, Garlett has kicked 171 goals and Betts 165, but Betts had played 22 more games than him.What I like about Garlett and Yarran is that they can carry the ball with real pace from CHB to the forward 50m and kill all chasers trying to stop them. Then nailing that goal we need. I think they need to work on their conversion. Betts had the yips at set shots over the last few seasons. The other 2 were suspect at times to. If you have that pace, and X-factor you need to finish and especially nail the set shots at goal. Thomas could teach them this skill. Didn't know about the above comparison MilkIt. Thanks for that. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #125 – January 07, 2014, 11:10:01 pm Betts has one clear advantage over Garlett and Yarran and that is his marking ability. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Betts is one of the best marks for a small forward.However, Garlett and Yarran are more complete footballers than Eddie and can make a contribution up the ground and in defence whereas Eddie is a forward first and foremost.Like many others, I was sad to see Eddie leave but we've got his position covered and then some. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #126 – January 08, 2014, 12:24:24 am Quote from: DJC – on January 07, 2014, 11:10:01 pmBetts has one clear advantage over Garlett and Yarran and that is his marking ability. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Betts is one of the best marks for a small forward.However, Garlett and Yarran are more complete footballers than Eddie and can make a contribution up the ground and in defence whereas Eddie is a forward first and foremost.Like many others, I was sad to see Eddie leave but we've got his position covered and then some. As good as his marking was I'm glad we will no longer se him as the lone forward trying to out mark 2 or 3 opposition players, geez it drove me nuts! Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #127 – January 08, 2014, 12:33:04 pm Quote from: Mantis – on January 07, 2014, 09:44:31 pmQuote from: MilkIt – on January 07, 2014, 09:30:02 pmQuote from: Mantis – on January 07, 2014, 08:48:06 pmIf it takes one missing player to let two other players become super stars, then I say bring it on. Yarran and Garlett can be absolute freaks. Betts was very good but they have an opportunity to be even better.I think Garlett could be better than Betts. At the same age, Garlett has kicked 171 goals and Betts 165, but Betts had played 22 more games than him.What I like about Garlett and Yarran is that they can carry the ball with real pace from CHB to the forward 50m and kill all chasers trying to stop them. Then nailing that goal we need. I think they need to work on their conversion. Betts had the yips at set shots over the last few seasons. The other 2 were suspect at times to. If you have that pace, and X-factor you need to finish and especially nail the set shots at goal. Thomas could teach them this skill. Didn't know about the above comparison MilkIt. Thanks for that. Yarran was an exceptional shot at goal - before he came to Carlton! Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #128 – January 08, 2014, 02:52:03 pm Yarran needs to play across half back, Menzel to take Eddie's spot. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #129 – January 08, 2014, 03:04:47 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on January 08, 2014, 02:52:03 pmYarran needs to play across half back, Menzel to take Eddie's spot.Menzel has to earn Eddie's spot!I watched the interview with Mick yesterday and I was most interested in his brief discussion of draft picks. To paraphrase, he compared Menzel, as a high draft pick, with Cachia and pointed out that Cachia played more games than Menzel. He also said that this lot of draft picks were ready to play AFL and expected a couple to force their way into the side.Menzel needs to learn how to keep his feet or he'll be bypassed. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #130 – January 08, 2014, 07:27:18 pm Quote from: DJC – on January 08, 2014, 03:04:47 pmQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on January 08, 2014, 02:52:03 pmYarran needs to play across half back, Menzel to take Eddie's spot.Menzel has to earn Eddie's spot!I watched the interview with Mick yesterday and I was most interested in his brief discussion of draft picks. To paraphrase, he compared Menzel, as a high draft pick, with Cachia and pointed out that Cachia played more games than Menzel. He also said that this lot of draft picks were ready to play AFL and expected a couple to force their way into the side.Menzel needs to learn how to keep his feet or he'll be bypassed.Yeah I don't think he was given a decent run at it personally He wasn't ready for the midfield and there was no room up front with Eddie and Jeffy. He certainly showed he's a dangerous forward early in one game (can't remember which one) but he moved and marked very nicely on the lead. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #131 – January 08, 2014, 07:42:20 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on January 08, 2014, 07:27:18 pmQuote from: DJC – on January 08, 2014, 03:04:47 pmQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on January 08, 2014, 02:52:03 pmYarran needs to play across half back, Menzel to take Eddie's spot.Menzel has to earn Eddie's spot!I watched the interview with Mick yesterday and I was most interested in his brief discussion of draft picks. To paraphrase, he compared Menzel, as a high draft pick, with Cachia and pointed out that Cachia played more games than Menzel. He also said that this lot of draft picks were ready to play AFL and expected a couple to force their way into the side.Menzel needs to learn how to keep his feet or he'll be bypassed.Yeah I don't think he was given a decent run at it personally He wasn't ready for the midfield and there was no room up front with Eddie and Jeffy. He certainly showed he's a dangerous forward early in one game (can't remember which one) but he moved and marked very nicely on the lead.His first quarters against Essendon and the Doggies were both very good. 2 goals in each from memory. Went missing for the rest of the match, though. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #133 – January 09, 2014, 01:05:35 am I feel we have beauty on our hands with Menzel. As mentioned I just think he does everything well, just a natural footballer he is, not an athlete-come-footballer. I hope gets a good run at it this year, but I also feel he needs to prove he deserves it. All things being equal he should play quite regularly this year. Quote Selected
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #134 – January 09, 2014, 08:16:21 am Quote from: Jean-Claude – on January 09, 2014, 01:05:35 amI feel we have beauty on our hands with Menzel. As mentioned I just think he does everything well, just a natural footballer he is, not an athlete-come-footballer. I hope gets a good run at it this year, but I also feel he needs to prove he deserves it. All things being equal he should play quite regularly this year.Have the same feeling JC although others on here are not yet convinced about him. Quote Selected