Carlton Supporters Club

Our small forwards don't do enough and that's the reality, they don't get the ball enough. If we had something better they wouldn't be getting a game.
Some people want Martin back...that's a real endorsement..
Our seconds got knocked over by a bunch of high school kids, there isn't any pressure for positions and we don't have any depth.

our slow ball movement is another problem.  By the time we make up out mind what to do all options are closed.

I'm not sure what's going on. You can argue about what came first  (list or game style), but we have slow big bodied mids that are ideal for a contested game. Kicking to the boundary and forcing stoppage after stoppage seems reasonable under the circumstances. Fast ball movement if the opposition is pressing up, giving Harry and Charlie one on one contests, also makes sense. I can only assume that Voss doesn't have confidence in our ability to limit damage on turnover, so rather than risky footy, he wants the boys to play it safe looking for an uncontested mark. Playing the uncontested game requires good pace and good endurance, because you're constantly trying to get separation on your opponent.

*Scratches head and armpits in the vain hope of finding an answer.*

Unfortunately we don't want to face the answer. Our good players make us too slow when they play together. Cripps, Kennedy, Hewitt and Cerra are fantastic players but are one paced and can't really play elsewhere.
Think Wallis at the dogs a few years ago. Even our 95 side we worked out that Barry Mitchell who was a ball magnet couldn't play in the same side as Williams because they got exposed for pace.

Small forwards might be part of the issue but thought Owies was great the other night. He's kicked 9 goals in 3 and a bit games this season.

Was bemused when I read the best player list and saw Docherty on there (thought he had a shocker with fumbles and turnovers) and Cottrell wasn't on there...thought he was close to our best in the first half when the rest were sh#thouse.

McKay needs a spell in the VFL...even if it's one game. Go back, take a ton of marks on some inexperienced bloke and just kick a bag of goals for the confidence. He looks shot to bits at the moment. Even if it means TDK comes in and plays as a tall forward and part-time in the ruck.

I'd back Weitering in. It was this game last year where he got injured and it went downhill from there with injuries to tall defenders.

PP....to follow up on that, I found Ed as a strange choice for the sub to be honest. Hollands might've been due for a rest but Ed doesn't really add that extra pace, even if he's fresh off the bench. Someone like a Kemp or Boyd is more appealing IMO. Obviously hindsight is wonderful if you lose a tall early in the game and only have a small as the sub....but someone with some real legs in the last quarter would've been handy.

Small forwards might be part of the issue but thought Owies was great the other night. He's kicked 9 goals in 3 and a bit games this season.

It's like they don't want to kick to a contest, chip around for a better option then ultimately kick it to a pack of 20 players.

More importantly, 9 goals 1 behind. Extremely accurate is Matty, a rare commodity.

We traditionally have problems against the same players every time against this mob.  That's crap coaching.

For starters, I'd be playing TdK and H as a tag team on Moore and play way up the ground, maybe on a wing as an outlet option for defence.  Surely they can out mark anybody if Moore doesn't follow them down the ground?  Make the pies react to us and buy more real estate in the corridor not the wings.  Going wide doesn't work.

Charlie stays inside 50.  Clear it out   Deal with that pies.  Make them sweat.

Owies + 1 as hit up/ground level options.  Owies consistently finds space.

Kennedy starts across half forward as an additional hit up option.

Kemp plays as, probably as the sub, he's more versatile size-wise as a defender. Young may be the one to miss.

Park somebody on Daicos and make him accountable, maybe Docherty is smart enough to hurt him by sneaking some shots on goal if Daicos gets loose?  And Docherty can be effective in all parts of the ground.

No kick chasing in defence - none.  Maybe MacG for deGoey, he's about the right size.

I was tempted to pick Dow but all midfielders are going to have to run very hard both ways for us to win this, but Dow running forwards at every opportunity is something I like the sound of.