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Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #30 –
No real surprises in any of that. Pies will make plenty of teams look average this season.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #31 –
Quote from: shawny – on
We’re sh1t mate. Take the blue glasses off.
Middle of the road team at best.

Have i suggested otherwise?

We are a 'middle 6' team. Our results in the Voss era show exactly that.

Why anyone thinks differently has me f***ked.
Why anyone thinks we were going to knock off collingwood has me f***ked.

The people who are angriest are the people who have unrealistic expectations.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #32 –
Big second half coming up
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #33 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Have i suggested otherwise?

We are a 'middle 6' team. Our results in the Voss era show exactly that.

Why anyone thinks differently has me f***ked.
Why anyone thinks we were going to knock off collingwood has me f***ked.

The people who are angriest are the people who have unrealistic expectations.

Unrealistic expectations? We are 8 years into a rebuild never made final and will go backwards this year despite having a decent run with injures and finish bottom 6.

We have every right to feel pi55ed off.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #34 –
I'd suggest that at the moment we're looking like a bottom 6 side! We've beaten Geelong when they were ordinary outta the blocks....fell over the line against GWS....and beat up on North and West Coast.

I think the expectations were there this year because we were in the top 8 for all bar about 2 minutes last season and suffered a horrendous run of injuries in the middle part of the season when we were down to Young as our only key defender at one point.

Walsh was missing early and we lost Williams in the pre-season, but Acres came in ready made and Hollands has added a bit. But we've fallen away dramatically from last season IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #35 –
You can clearly see the boys giving effort and having a crack, but the Pies move-the-ball-forward-at-all-costs, extreme run and gun style, is clearly troubling us and many other sides. What they do, they do extremely well.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #36 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Unrealistic expectations? We are 8 years into a rebuild never made final and will go backwards this year despite having a decent run with injures and finish bottom 6.

We have every right to feel pi55ed off.

You can say we are 20 years into a rebuild if you want. Reality is, every time we sack a coach, we start again.

We are not even 18 months into this current phase.
In that 18 months we have...
New President
New CEO
New Senior coach
New assistant coaches
and plenty of new players.

None of which have anything to do with what happened 18 months before.

You may well remember that i have been opposed to sacking the coach from every coach since Pagan! I would've kept Ratten, (supported) Malthouse, Bolton and Teague.....and have no issues with Voss.

We need some kind of stability. The complete lack of is why our 'rebuilds' are continuing....reality, we get halfway through a build, demolish it and start again.
We have never come close to finishing a rebuild. Until we do, we'll never get to where we want to get too.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #37 –
The ball movement and player positioning of the Pies is something to behold live.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #38 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
I'd suggest that at the moment we're looking like a bottom 6 side! We've beaten Geelong when they were ordinary outta the blocks....fell over the line against GWS....and beat up on North and West Coast.

I think the expectations were there this year because we were in the top 8 for all bar about 2 minutes last season and suffered a horrendous run of injuries in the middle part of the season when we were down to Young as our only key defender at one point.

Walsh was missing early and we lost Williams in the pre-season, but Acres came in ready made and Hollands has added a bit. But we've fallen away dramatically from last season IMO.
Going by the ladder before this round started....

Vs top 6 - 0-3
Vs mid 6 - 1-1-1
Vs Bot 6 - 3-0

Trend continues today.
We are mid-6 and results show it. We are having a tough run both fixture wise and form wise. But its better being 'down' against top sides. By the time we play some lower/mid sides, hopefully we find some more form.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #39 –
We on the other hand have had our game disassembled from early last year, we need to either make tweaks or make the tweaks work better.
Early last year the forward handball was devastating for us this year hardly sighted.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #40 –
Let's see  how we go in the second half.  A lot could be answered in the next 60 min.

I just want to see some GUTS AND DETERMINATION......

 O0  O0

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #41 –
The Filth are able to ruck Cox vs Pitto because Pitto does not offer much ruck impact, they can square the contest with the B-Grade ruck option and then we are stuck with SoJ vs Cameron, Cameron is basically ending SoJ's career as we watch. This is horrendous by our MC, it's happening game after game.

I think Pitto might have peripheral vision problems, because multiple times he does all the hustle and bustle to win an uncontested tap, and then sends it straight to the opposition, our slower heavier mids are then powerless to put on the brakes.

Motlop is better today, but Durdin is struggling against the bigger bodies.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #42 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
We on the other hand have had our game disassembled from early last year, we need to either make tweaks or make the tweaks work better.
Early last year the forward handball was devastating for us this year hardly sighted.

Overcorrection based on a few games last year, and early this year.

We were getting hurt on the rebound and had trouble defending it.

So now, we go slower, more deliberate trying to stop being scored against on the rebound....which is working.
However, its hurting our scoring and helping the opposition defend as they have more time to get back and do so.

We need to be faster, more direct......but we need to have the skills and smarts to do that,

This is why i think Williamson, Martin, Cuningham not being available for selection (and Fisher out of form) is hurting us big time.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #43 –
Seems as though we've activated the sub, and I believe from the radio that McGovern is playing forward.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 In Game Angst Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #44 –
I didn’t have Hollands off on my bingo card …