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Yeah I dont agree with all of that. I think the fwd craft has always been there but for the most part but the poor delivery has messed up the finishing off. When the delivery was fast and clean this week, we saw plenty of fwd craft with the bigs and smalls in sync. Martins gather off Charlie's hands and dish off to Harry for a goal was sublime (such is his talent). Agree lets hope Cunners and Martin can remain uninjured and make through every game to the years end. DC definitely added another dimension. Like me, you may have blinked and missed his run, gather and dish off on the half back line in the 3rd qtr, I couldn't believe my eyes and had to watch it again. The bloke oozes class and speed, exactly what we need. May the the footy gods bless him with some luck FFS.

Almost every one of Martin's disposals ended up with a positive result for us, although there was more than a bit of luck attached to his shot at goal from just inside 50.  Two of Paddy's disposals found a target; a handball to Cripps and a kick that Charlie took on the bounce.  The rest were 40m kicks to contests and he wasn't really under pressure.  Paddy has to make his possessions count.

We need to be more careful with our list management.

Need to cut less for the sake of it, and look at the net coming and going.  I've seen fisher named as dead weight but to me he's useful just having a poor run.

If we can move on another 6 true dead weight players, then we should likely persist with these guys.

Stats tell a part of the story of any match.
They're not the 'be all and end all'...but one interesting stat is the "Disposal inside 50 efficiency."

It should probably be read in conjunction with the number of times inside 50.
For example in the Adelaide game we had 53 'inside 50s'...Adelaide had 51.
But their "disposal efficiency inside 50" was 64.7%...ours was 39.6%
More inside 50s but much less efficient.

Here's our "disposal inside 50 efficiency" for each game this year.

Rnd 1 v  Richmond -Draw-46.7%
Rnd 2 v Geelong -W- 56.3%
Rnd 3 v GWS  W- 44.3% (GWS was only 37%)
Rnd 4 v North- W- 51.9%
Rnd 5 v Adelaide- L- 39.6%
Rnd 6 v St Kilda -L- 46.2%
Rnd 7 v WCE-W- 71.4%
Rnd 8 v Brisbane-L- 44.7%
Rnd 9 v Western Bulldogs-L-42%
Rnd 10 v Collingwood-L-43.1%
Rnd 11 v Sydney-L-37.3%
Rnd 12 v Melbourne-L-41%
Rnd 13 v Essendon-L- 50%
Rnd 14 v Suns-W-63.6%

Our season average is 48.6%...we were much better yesterday with 63.6%
But with only 4 more inside 50s...55-51
Suns inside 50 efficiency was 41.2%

That's not fair on Pitto, he's fine when used to his strengths, but he is not a running type ruck. He needs to be in the push and shove and floating across CHB to take away opposition space.

I agree on Durdin and Motlop, they were both going to where the ball wasn't. Bit of VFL will do them both good. Martin was stationed a lot deeper which helped our forward structure.

Martin has to get more than eight possessions a game...last week he had eight as well with only four finding a target. Been subbed off twice which doesnt help his stats but I guess thats easing him back in given his injury history so he probably needs a few more games to assess properly.
Dow needs to be played for 4 quarters to see if he has improved, coming on for junk time last quarters when games are over doesnt really tell us much. I still think he will be struggling to maintain his spot on the list.....

No, Martin doesn’t have to get more than 8 disposals provided that he uses each one as effectively as he did against Gold Coast: two goal assists and five score involvements is a decent return from a small forward with no pre-season.

The intangible with Martin is that the opposition can’t give him a sniff and that means one less defender to run interference on Charlie and Harry.  And then there’s his defensive pressure when the opposition is trying to get the pill out of their backline.

Martin’s stats against Essendon are hard to reconcile.  He scored 1 goal and 2 behinds and had four score involvements.  In other words, half of Martin’s disposals resulted in a score.  I’d happily take that from a forward with no pre-season.

Who are you going to drop to enable Dow to play four quarters?

Dow is an inside mid with no other strings to his bow and, on form, he’s way behind Cripps, Kennedy, Cerra, Docherty and Walsh … and probably Hewett and Ed Curnow as well.  Paddy’s doing OK as the sub and I’d leave him there.

No, Martin doesn’t have to get more than 8 disposals provided that he uses each one as effectively as he did against Gold Coast: two goal assists and five score involvements is a decent return from a small forward with no pre-season.

The intangible with Martin is that the opposition can’t give him a sniff and that means one less defender to run interference on Charlie and Harry.  And then there’s his defensive pressure when the opposition is trying to get the pill out of their backline.

Martin’s stats against Essendon are hard to reconcile.  He scored 1 goal and 2 behinds and had four score involvements.  In other words, half of Martin’s disposals resulted in a score.  I’d happily take that from a forward with no pre-season.

Who are you going to drop to enable Dow to play four quarters?

Dow is an inside mid with no other strings to his bow and, on form, he’s way behind Cripps, Kennedy, Cerra, Docherty and Walsh … and probably Hewett and Ed Curnow as well.  Paddy’s doing OK as the sub and I’d leave him there.