Pole Vault Gold August 24, 2023, 12:21:14 pm Nina Kennedy won the Pole Vault at the World Championships. World Champion Where's our public Holiday? Quote Selected
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #1 – August 24, 2023, 12:35:31 pm Did I hear there was some controversy about that result? Quote Selected
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #2 – August 24, 2023, 02:16:12 pm Quote from: LP – on August 24, 2023, 12:35:31 pmDid I hear there was some controversy about that result?I actually haven't seen the vision yet.Not so much a controversy....The two top athletes agreed to share the gold rather than go to a jump off.I haven't heard anything other than that.That's quite within the rules.In a previous existence I coached the event for about twenty years.If after reaching the maximum height the athletes can't be separated on count back (number of misses at lower heights) the bar is not raised but lowered until someone clears and the other doesn't.It's a bugger of a way to decide it and quite taxing.The agreement to share is a sensible compromise...and takes nothing away from the achievement.A similar thing happened at the Olympics in the men's High Jump. Quote Selected Last Edit: August 24, 2023, 03:34:48 pm by Lods 2 Likes
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #3 – August 24, 2023, 03:13:39 pm Quote from: Lods – on August 24, 2023, 02:16:12 pmIf after reaching the maximum height the athletes can't be separated on count back (number of misses at lower heights) the bar is not raised but lowered until someone clears and the other doesn't.So they basically make them keep jump until they drop dead, that's a rather brutal side to that sport I wasn't aware of! Quote Selected
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #4 – August 24, 2023, 03:53:09 pm Quote from: LP – on August 24, 2023, 03:13:39 pmSo they basically make them keep jump until they drop dead, that's a rather brutal side to that sport I wasn't aware of! It's usually settled after a couple of heights, but it can drag on.The thing about individual athletes of most sport is it's just about always two separate competitionsThe first is against your opponent (s)The second is against yourself (and the clock and tape)....you're always looking to beat your personal best time, height or distance.So if you reach your peak performance on a given day that's as good as it gets for that day.The last thing you want to do is go back and jump a height you've already jumped.So the decision to share the Gold is usually a sensible one.The conditions are-- a jump off only applies in the case of first place, lower placings are shared....otherwise the bar would be going up and down like a yo-yo.-both athletes have to agree to the 'share' or keep jumping...if one stops jumping the other is the winner even if they haven't cleared the height. Quote Selected
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #5 – August 24, 2023, 05:19:13 pm All track and field events are taxing but pole vault is especially so … and not without an element of danger. Sharing the gold is an entirely appropriate outcome, congratulations to both athletes 👏 Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #6 – August 24, 2023, 05:33:19 pm It can be extremely dangerous.https://people.com/sports/pole-vaulter-suffers-injury-after-pole-pierces-scrotum-18-stitches/That's not the first time I've heard of this happening either. Quote Selected Last Edit: August 24, 2023, 05:37:15 pm by Lods
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #7 – August 24, 2023, 06:29:18 pm Quote from: Lods – on August 24, 2023, 05:33:19 pmIt can be extremely dangerous.https://people.com/sports/pole-vaulter-suffers-injury-after-pole-pierces-scrotum-18-stitches/That's not the first time I've heard of this happening either.That made me wince … Quote Selected
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #8 – August 24, 2023, 06:57:38 pm Quote from: Lods – on August 24, 2023, 02:16:12 pmI actually haven't seen the vision yet.Not so much a controversy....The two top athletes agreed to share the gold rather than go to a jump off.I've seen that happen a few times, i think last time was at the high jump....maybe at the olympics?The camera was on the spot listening to the official talking to the 2 athletes. One athlete brought it up to another, there was a very brief discussion, then they lept into eachothers arms in celebration. Was awesome to see.EDIT: Here it is...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pzFZqUVjb4 Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Pole Vault Gold Reply #9 – August 24, 2023, 07:25:49 pm Quote from: kruddler – on August 24, 2023, 06:57:38 pmI've seen that happen a few times, i think last time was at the high jump....maybe at the olympics?The camera was on the spot listening to the official talking to the 2 athletes. One athlete brought it up to another, there was a very brief discussion, then they lept into eachothers arms in celebration. Was awesome to see.YepAt the last Olympics Tamberi (Italy) and Barshim (Qatar) shared the Gold.Ist and 3rd this time around at the World's Quote Selected