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Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #135 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
My point being has he improved?
He was injured for most of that and is playing under a different coach with different expectations. He is still getting a game over someone like Cincotta who seems to do the team things, but perhaps lacks the pure ability and skill that Williams has.

Maybe if Saad, McGovern and Docherty were playing now, he wouldn't be.

He was borderling best 22 at the start of the year, and is borderline best 22 now. I don't think he has been terrible, but i think he can certainly improve. He is not alone there though.

I think his dive was good timing (career wise) even though it was terrible timing (game wise).
It gives Vossy the ability to lay down the law and get that sorta thing stamped out from Williams' game, but everyone else on the list too. With plenty of time to get it out of our system come finals time, when there is no room for that sorta thing.

He made a mistake. He's allowed one.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #136 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Whatever you think of the Williams 'incident', one way or another the AFL got it wrong.

There was no free kick paid at the time......so either it deserved a free kick or it didn't.
If it deserved a free kick, it didn't get one, so it was wrong. Umpires were wrong.
If it DIDN'T deserve a free kick, then how can Henry be fined for it? Tribunal are wrong.

Take it whichever way you like, but there is no scenario where everyone was right, so someone was wrong.

Was going to post something similiar, if the incident was worth a fine then it had to be worth a free kick.

This was just one of a handful of really crappy decisions we copped from the umpires that cost us dearly.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #137 –
Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :

https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes


It's the vibe !!!!  
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #138 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :

https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes


It's the vibe !!!!

Clear as mud.

Common sense.....that was not used.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #139 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Just in case you thought that 50m penalty against Harry & Crippa made no sense, get a load of this for an explanation :

https://www.afl.com.au/video/1119499/footy-feed-extra-kane-on-stand-rule-ball-movement-extra-time-texts?videoId=1119499&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1714368368001&tagNames=AppNewsFeed:Yes


It's the vibe !!!!  

Voss or Cook need to respond to that.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #140 –
How about Cincotta into the backline and Zac goes half forward?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #141 –
Quote from: blueboys_1 – on
Been thinking that the last 3 weeks the opposition is scoring very easily against us on transition Listening to Sunday pre game and they were talking about our Defensive transition I think and came up with the following stats.

Adelaide: 25 scoring shots from 49 entries.

GWS: 27 scoring shots from 51 entries.

Geelong: 28 scoring shots from 45 entries.

Better than 50% from each team.

That will not stand up in finals.

Good thing is it is something that can be fixed and worked on during the season.

When we get our pressure rating over 200 no-one in the competition can touch us. Every aspect suddenly becomes strong including defensively. Problem is though we let it drop right back too often and too easily. Can't do 200 all game, 240 against GWS when we crushed them in the 10 min period, but we must keep it consistently in the 180s, not 150s. That's about switching on mentally.

2nd half of the year, when we start to peak, we should see more of that pressure.
 

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #142 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
How about Cincotta into the backline and Zac goes half forward?

Sounds like a plan we have so many players that are a liability at this moment and he is one huge culprit. He's only switched on when he feels like it. Must be laughing at us taking $4m over six years...another two years to go with Zac this is turning into a nightmare - we are paying him too much to play VFL. We are stuck with him...

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #143 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Voss or Cook need to respond to that.
Why hasn't Cincotta been playing in the 2s?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #144 –
Must play this week.  Example needs to be made...three weeks of poor defending is two weeks too many.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #145 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Not wrong...its a fair spray...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-zac-williams-one-of-the-laziest-footballers-says-jonathan-brown-contract-trade/news-story/da774d0f30b45bde60c5ffa312645c6d
I dont enjoy potting our players but he was very ordinary. Lets see how he responds.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #146 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
How about Cincotta into the backline and Zac goes half forward?
Agree on Cincotta, thought ZW  might go ok on the wing vs a very out of form Sidebottom, maybe the coach could challenge him with N.Daicos who plays off half back to shut him down..

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #147 –
I'd be tempted to play Zac Williams on a wing, rather than Ollie Hollands. Ollie is struggling and needs to time in the VFL to regain form and confidence.
Cincotta can play tight, he can even play midfield, which I didn't expect to see. he has real depth on his kicks as well.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #148 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
I'd be tempted to play Zac Williams on a wing, rather than Ollie Hollands. Ollie is struggling and needs to time in the VFL to regain form and confidence.
Cincotta can play tight, he can even play midfield, which I didn't expect to see. he has real depth on his kicks as well.

Im a little concerned with Ollie Hollands lack of development. Not sure whether he is star struck and head got too big but been underwhelming. Ginbey, McVee, Wilmot and many others are hitting some PBs but Ollie has stagnated and even gone backwards.

Needs to regain touch and confidence.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #149 –
Zac Williams was subbed out last week, and possibly wasn’t cherry ripe for this game. Leaving aside significant personal issues and time out with injury, he should be given a chance to prove himself. Everyone plays a bad game at some point.