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Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #90
Our line-up:

B:  [42] Adam Saad,  [23] Jacob Weitering,  [2] Lachlan Cowan
HB:  [17] Brodie Kemp,  [11] Mitch McGovern,  [24] Nic Newman
C:  [4] Oliver Hollands,  [9] Patrick Cripps,  [13] Blake Acres
HF:  [6] Zac Williams,  [10] Harry McKay,  [20] Elijah Hollands
F:  [14] Orazio Fantasia,  [30] Charlie Curnow,  [44] Matthew Owies
R:  [12] Tom De Koning,  [18] Sam Walsh,  [7] Matthew Kennedy
Int:  [37] Jordan Boyd,  [29] George Hewett,  [39] Alex Cincotta,  [8] Lachie Fogarty,  [16] Jack Carroll

Em: [19] Corey Durdin,  [33] Lewis Young,  [25] Jaxon Binns

In:  Adam Saad,  Lachlan Cowan,  Lachie Fogarty
Out:  Corey Durdin (Omitted),  Marc Pittonet (Injured),  Caleb Marchbank (Managed)

[1] We will miss Pittonet, who usually plays well against Witts. Tom has a very poor record against Witts and has always played to his weaknesses against him. If he plays to his strengths and moves Witts around ...
Still, I see this is a major danger.

[2] Saad, Cowan and Fogarty in is good for us. Saad defends and attacks. Fogarty keeps the ball in our forward half and provides opportunities for his team mates. Cowan played well last week in the 2's: I'd be thinking of using his in the middle.

[3] GC's strength is their midfield. If we can keep them under control, we should do well. But we should match up carefully.

[4] How Fantasia still gets games amazes me. Corey Durdin was good against Melbourne, but has been too quiet too often. How is he not better than Fantasia though? Fantasia has 1 goal in the seniors for the year and hasn't looked dangerous.

[5] Marchbank - he has to be a worry. If he can't play 3 weeks in a row, then he is done.

[6] Olli Hollands was brilliant against Melbourne for 3 quarters, but that's been it. He needs to stand up this round.

Just a couple of points:
Durdin has been way more ineffective than Fantasia. If Motlop was fit I'd guess neither would play.
With Moo back this week, I'd chuck Cincotta in the guts and add him to the midfield rotation. Played midfield in his VFL days, has size, speed, grunt and is a good driving (ie low) kick.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

 

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #91
Just a couple of points:
Durdin has been way more ineffective than Fantasia. If Motlop was fit I'd guess neither would play.
With Moo back this week, I'd chuck Cincotta in the guts and add him to the midfield rotation. Played midfield in his VFL days, has size, speed, grunt and is a good driving (ie low) kick.
Durdin had one more effective possession than all of us on the forum last game so the bar is low.....Orazio is a 100 game plus player who should be doing a lot better in a team with two dominant big forwards imo. He probably should have started in the twos when the season began and worked into some form but injuries to other players forced his inclusion so he ended up in the deep end and has spent most of the season drowning unfortunately.
I think the ideal small forwards can take a turn in the midfield and a lot of the better ones do and I wonder if Orazio given some real minutes in the middle it might be a catalyst to get him going...

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #92
Durdin had one more effective possession than all of us on the forum last game so the bar is low.....Orazio is a 100 game plus player who should be doing a lot better in a team with two dominant big forwards imo. He probably should have started in the twos when the season began and worked into some form but injuries to other players forced his inclusion so he ended up in the deep end and has spent most of the season drowning unfortunately.
I think the ideal small forwards can take a turn in the midfield and a lot of the better ones do and I wonder if Orazio given some real minutes in the middle it might be a catalyst to get him going...
In one of the praccy matches, he had some spurts in the middle and I thought he looked ok there.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #93
A win will get us into the 8.
A 50-point win will get us to 5th.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #94
Can anyone see us winning today based on what we've been doing for 4 quarters most weeks?

We don't look fit, and we were soundly obliterated after half time last week.

If young is fit he should be playing.  Weiters going down cooked us, you could argue we looked better with young than without him so far this season.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #95
GC are not that great and are poor away from home.Blues by 28 points with Charlie and Harry in the goals and Cripps and Walsh in the stats..
I think Port ,Essendon and the Cats will tell us more in games coming up..

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #96
Loose this and the season is cooked and the heat will really ramp up.  The pile-on (starting with the failed fireman) will be brutal.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #97
Can anyone see us winning today based on what we've been doing for 4 quarters most weeks?

We don't look fit, and we were soundly obliterated after half time last week.

If young is fit he should be playing.  Weiters going down cooked us, you could argue we looked better with young than without him so far this season.

Very much a 50/50 game IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #98
Can anyone see us winning today based on what we've been doing for 4 quarters most weeks?

We don't look fit, and we were soundly obliterated after half time last week.

If young is fit he should be playing.  Weiters going down cooked us, you could argue we looked better with young than without him so far this season.

Absolutely I can see us winning. And winning well, based on our potential and learning from the errors of the season thus far.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #99
But we don't learn it's the same old issues over and over
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #100
Loose this and the season is cooked and the heat will really ramp up.  The pile-on (starting with the failed fireman) will be brutal.
Agree..if we cant beat GC away in a home game for us then we have real problems and yep the pile on will be of skyscraper proportions..

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #101
But we don't learn it's the same old issues over and over

Don't worry, Professory, I agree it's a massive hurdle. Especially when the opposition counters our set-up. I hope, mmm... pray, we took a leaf out of the Dishlickers book in their game against the Fluffy Ducks, when the ducks dialled up the pressure, the Dishlickers responded with their own dialled up pressure and the ducks struggled. If not for the injuries to key personnel in that game I reckon the Dishlickers would have gotten up.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #102
NO more injuries!

Please.
2024... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #103
Sam Flanders a late out.