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AFL Rd 13 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

At 19:20 on a Sunday night. Not a great time.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Quote from: crashlander – on
At 19:20 on a Sunday night. Not a great time.
Night before a public holiday, so not quite as bad.....
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Night before a public holiday, so not quite as bad.....
Sei danket Gott!
Live Long and Prosper!

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That'll be 5.30pm here but no holiday the next day for us. Could make for a rowdy Sunday session though if we knock them off.

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Putrid followers who decorate themselves in blood and blackened faeces, spawn of the damned, for they are the children of evil, false gods, D-Grade Satans, sons of perdition, little whores, who bring only darkness, hatred, loathing and largely unjustified fear to those around them as they are nought but bullies.



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In this we pray.
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Quote of the year....we have a winner.

And ugly oversized livestock
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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So, do we go in unchanged again or are there changes to be made?  Looking at the 2s I see Carroll is named - is he able to play given he subbed on or will he be a late out for the 2s today?  He may be one to give way if there is an in to be made, even only to give him a decent run after a lot of time on the sub bench.  That's less of an issue if he plays a full game today.
Other than that Fantasia's output has been heavily criticised and consistently low, but the coach has stood up for him and it's not clear who would take the role he is presently playing covering for Cottrell's absence.  Binns has the endurance game but would be another light body and Ollie Hollands stood up this week.  Other than that Owies continues to underperform but is till averaging comfortably better than a goal a game, behind only the twin towers and well ahead of anyone else (though of course Zac Williams has been hitting the scoreboard a lot more since going forward).  Motlop and little Durds get their chance to impress in the 2s today but one hasn't been playing well and the other hasn't been playing at all so it would have to be a big game to force their way in especially as the opposition is not the strongest VFL team going around.  Kennedy has a poor game this week but has been much better over the course of the year.  There may be pressure on him and/or Hewett if we get close to a full squad fit - Cerra is a walk-up start as is a fit Martin, but at this stage I think MK stays.  Marchbank is a coach's favourite but the only one I see him replacing on this week's showing is Cowan and I think whilst the stats were down a bit this week they are not bad over the course of the year but moreover I like his toughness and he just seems to be a player who will reward the club more and more as they get more games into him at the highest level.  In any event maybe the club has learnt its lessen about rushing Marchy back and will give him more continuity in the 2s before looking at a seniors return.  That's what I would do and if we desperately need more height down back (and Marchy is only a third tall anyway) consider whichever of big Durds or Young might perform better.  For my own point of view I'd stick with the defence we have especially as they only have the one real tall forward in 2 metre Peter.
So, pending the 2s today - and reserving the right to totally change my mind after the 2s - it could well be no change but if someone stands up perhaps Carroll and/or Fantasia are at risk or at a stretch Cowan or Kennedy though I'd back them both in.  I doubt we would look to revert to 2 rucks and assuming TDK is fit to go I don't see Pitto coming in even if his finger is good which is uncertain anyway.

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Sam Draper is still out for a few weeks with his knee injury, so I guess the case for 2 rucks becomes more 50/50. If he and Peter Wright were both playing, I'd say 2 rucks for sure.

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Quote from: blueianh – on
So, do we go in unchanged again or are there changes to be made?  Looking at the 2s I see Carroll is named - is he able to play given he subbed on or will he be a late out for the 2s today?

There’s nothing to stop subs backing up in the VFL and it’s a fairly common occurrence.  It will depend on what the fitness staff say but I would expect him to play after being the sub two weeks running.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Presumably it'll be Goldstein rucking with Wright as backup? If so, it'll be TDK and Harry again and I reckon Harry offers more around the ground while on-ball than Wright does. And TDK would have Goldstein covered around the ground too. So no changes on that front IMO.

Only change I could see is if Motlop fires in the VFL then he would come in....likely for Fantasia. Other than Wright and Jones, I don't think Bombers are that tall in the forward line unless I'm missing someone. Stringer will be a tough match up but one I could see Kemp taking on.

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Presumably it'll be Goldstein rucking with Wright as backup? If so, it'll be TDK and Harry again and I reckon Harry offers more around the ground while on-ball than Wright does. And TDK would have Goldstein covered around the ground too. So no changes on that front IMO.

Only change I could see is if Motlop fires in the VFL then he would come in....likely for Fantasia. Other than Wright and Jones, I don't think Bombers are that tall in the forward line unless I'm missing someone. Stringer will be a tough match up but one I could see Kemp taking on.
Might be worth putting McGovern on stringer. He has a bit more pace than Kemp and it would mean the bombers would have a decision to make.
Do they....
a) Use stringer as a decoy to drag McGovern away from the ball to limit his peeling off/3rd man in defensive nous.
b) Try and use stringer as a go-to and bring McGovern closet to the ball helping be the 3rd man up when it doesn't go to Stringer.
c) Try and push stringer into the midfield to break that matchup and hurting their attack as a result.

Either way, it works in our favour, assuming Gov can defend to an acceptable level 1-on-1.

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Essendon are actually fairly tall up forward, I think Langford will pose a similar threat to Georgiades did last game, leads well and is a long accurate kick and will probably get Kemp for company given the Essendon player is 6'4.
Newman would be my man to take Stringer, might get under his skin and given he is a high possession winner can also make Stringer work hard to defend him on the rebound.
That leaves Jones for McGovern....bit of a size difference but our man has a lot more experience and might be more comfortable doing his rebound stuff on an inexperienced player.
Weitering will have to take Wright and then Goldstein when he rests forward, you could probably mount a case for Young this week given we are outsized down back, hopefully Charlie and Harry are on and can use their size advantage down the other end...
Id be putting time into Martin and Ridley too....the latter cant be allowed to mark dump kicks uncontested and the former has been getting ridiculous high stats playing half back and being allowed to run free and use the footy which he does well.
Bit of a tactical challenge this week for Voss vs B Scott this week and selection and onball matchups will be key....Cincotta to Merrett is a no brainer imo.

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Having thought about it a little more, Goldstein v Pittonet and De Koning v Wright could work well. Two lumbering rucks going head to head and two mobile, hybrid ruck / forwards doing the same. Looking forward to this one probably more than any game thus far.

EDIT : a couple of days extra rest and Essendon traveling back from the Gold Coast should also help us.

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Goldstein not playing today against GC. A late change.