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Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #45
Presumably no worries for Cripps on that tackle where a free kick was awarded for a dangerous tackle? The reply looked to show minimal contact of the head with the ground.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #46
'Experts' on Fox Footy last night said Cripps has 'nothing to worry about'.
So he  probably should be just a little bit concerned.
Think he'll be OK though ;)  ;

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #47
I’m not really in agreement with some of the comments. The Cheats played as well as we let them, which, to be honest, wasn’t very good. Anyone who thinks we’re not at LEAST a 4 goal better side every day of the week doesn’t know much IMO.

3rd quarter was one of the worst of the year - from ANY side. They got the rub of the green from Umps yet the contest was pretty much over 10 mins into the last Q.  Yes, I still have residual PTSD from dropping these games consistently over last 10+ years (and not forgetting the Crows game, ugh) but, Voss is showing he’s learning to make the necessary adjustments at the right time.

Sure they missed some set shots but there were also a lot of rushed behinds because THEIR forwards chose the wrong option (a lot of shots falling just short of the goal line) and our defense effectively killed the ball by rushing it through more often than not.

Tackling still needs improving. Saw the stats of Weitering’s 2 opponents - he’s unbelievably difficult to play against.

My biggest concern at this stage is that the Swannies are looking like that ‘once in a 10 year’ side, where everything just clicks and they sustain no/few injuries. The premiership window only opens very slightly and usually for a relatively short time.

That's the thing though isn't it....
At our best we're probably at least the second best side in the competition.
"The ladder doesn't lie" according to Voss.

But would that effort last night get close to the Swans.
Essendon are pretenders
We shouldn't struggle to put them away.
We should crush them.
They shouldn't enter our 50 twenty times more than we enter theirs.

We had a couple of outstanding efforts last night.
We also had some mediocre ones by player's own standards.
It was good.
It wasn't great.


Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #48
Yeo was penalised for dragging the ball under him, not for the new HTB interpretation.  The umps are hot on players trying to force stoppages to waste time.
Should have got a free for the Nth holding the ball decision imo and he had no prior when he was tackled, that was red hot and should have been a ball up. To me there are too many quick HTB's and then in the next tackle,  the player is allowed way more time than the previous and I still find it depends on the player and who he it is. Lachie Neale always seems to get double the time Joe average does for example....the other one is when the player is tackled and attempts to kick the ball, many times the player makes no contact with the ball and it should be incorrect disposal not HTB but play is allowed to go on depending on who the player is.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #49
Should have got a free for the Nth holding the ball decision imo and he had no prior when he was tackled, that was red hot and should have been a ball up. To me there are too many quick HTB's and then in the next tackle,  the player is allowed way more time than the previous and I still find it depends on the player and who he it is. Lachie Neale always seems to get double the time Joe average does for example....the other one is when the player is tackled and attempts to kick the ball, many times the player makes no contact with the ball and it should be incorrect disposal not HTB but play is allowed to go on depending on who the player is.

Prior opportunity doesn’t apply when you drag the ball in.  The umpires are instructed to pay a free as soon as the ball is dragged in. 

Yeo was trying to get a stoppage and run the clock down and it backfired.

I agree with your comments about the increased inconsistency of HTB decisions and the sooner we go back to a reasonable time to dispose of the ball, the better.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #50
great we won BUT my concern is we allowed the opposition 20 more inside 50 ,voss and co have to work out a system that stops this from happening ( lions v carl final in 23 ) and our defence needs support run ball out not blind bomb straight to opposition hope we can make adjustments for 2nd half of season . Rapt for cincotta though.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #51
If we had got our fair share of free kicks we might be having a conversation about a shellacking 🙂
Yeah nah. Free kicks dont neccessarily end up in goals, depends where they are of course.
20 more inside 50s and 11 missed shots translates to real missed opportunities in my book. Anyhow, as I said, a win's a win and despite our worst qtr for the year (apparently TDK was off for 20mins which could be an explanation?) and some defensive breakdowns, we were in control all night.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

 

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #52
Not all inside 50's are equal.  If they kick to a contest and it gets cleared or rushed through its a worthless stat and speaks more for time in forward half. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #53
Prior opportunity doesn’t apply when you drag the ball in.  The umpires are instructed to pay a free as soon as the ball is dragged in. 

Yeo was trying to get a stoppage and run the clock down and it backfired.

I agree with your comments about the increased inconsistency of HTB decisions and the sooner we go back to a reasonable time to dispose of the ball, the better.
The bloke wasn't doing it to waste time. He didn't drag it under him and hatch it. He grabbed and tried to do something with it and was jumped upon. Bad interpretation of the rule. Then again, wouldn't be a week in footy unless the umpire's influence a result with a crap decision, or a gutless non-decision Adelaide v Essendon when Draper dived on it and dragged in under to waste time. Never seen anything like it this year.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #54
great we won BUT my concern is we allowed the opposition 20 more inside 50 ,voss and co have to work out a system that stops this from happening ( lions v carl final in 23 ) and our defence needs support run ball out not blind bomb straight to opposition hope we can make adjustments for 2nd half of season . Rapt for cincotta though.

Just the style we played. Inside 50s on it's own can be a useless stat. Back in the Bolton days one game we got more inside 50s and lost by 100pts. Shallow entries don't mean alot. Inside 25s would be better guide. Then a side is under real pressure.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #55
We've now won 20 of our last 26.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #56

Not bad considering the draw so far this year
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #57
I was thinking more about the game today and how blown away I was by TDK's performance. Then I remembered the commentators said he became an extra midfielder and it dawned on me who he reminded me of, Dean Cox. For me Cox is the most dynamic ruckman I have seen, could run all day, had fantastic skills round the ground, great disposal and could jump over small buildings in a single bound. If Tom continues on this trajectory, forget about Cripps Curnow and H, this bloke can be anything.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #58
Yeah nah. Free kicks dont neccessarily end up in goals, depends where they are of course.
20 more inside 50s and 11 missed shots translates to real missed opportunities in my book. Anyhow, as I said, a win's a win and despite our worst qtr for the year (apparently TDK was off for 20mins which could be an explanation?) and some defensive breakdowns, we were in control all night.

The free kicks awarded against Walsh stopped us going forward and gave them an inside 50 opportunity.  That happened far too often, as did the frees against Crippa.  If the frees were evened out, the inside 50 differential would be much smaller.

Despite their 60 inside 50s to our 41, they only had 25 shots to our 21.  Our defence was on top for the entire game and they were forced into taking low percentage shots and shots under pressure, and we forced five rushed behinds.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #59
Just the style we played. Inside 50s on it's own can be a useless stat. Back in the Bolton days one game we got more inside 50s and lost by 100pts. Shallow entries don't mean alot. Inside 25s would be better guide. Then a side is under real pressure.

Shots at goal is a better measure and they led by 25 to 21.  Most of theirs were under pressure or low percentage.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!