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Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #90 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Teams who can match us at the clearances then have the pace and spread are going to beat us...that's our Achilles heel when you have a team of bigger slow mids and they can't dominate.

Helps when our efforts are so poor. Any opposition could have done what they wanted tonight.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #91 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Oh ffs stop embarrassing yourself.

We are actually winning the clearances.
And there it is, the stats to the rescue, lucky for us!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #92 –
Quote from: LP – on
Nope, I thought Ollie and Fantasia could do with the extra protein.
save some for your face.

Your solution of a 2nd ruck to fix our issues down back and to fix our lack of outside run should see yourself with a big helping all over it.
....and we are still winning the clearances

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #93 –
Quote from: LP – on
And there it is, the stats to the rescue, lucky for us!

Well logic of a 2nd ruck not being a key back doesn't seem to work for you. Why not stats?

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #94 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
None of our mids including Acres who does get back often  have been able to get back and help out. Too slow and our defense has been caught out especially with Weitering injured.
I have been saying all year that speed and fast ball movement is our cryptonite.
The Swans play the same way.
The Giants have been a sleeping Giant (pardon the pun).
They are a good side, we have relaxed our pressure and bam..they are back in form.
Not worried about losing but I am about mot being able to put the clamps on them.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #95 –
I think with our slower bigger mids we need to dominate rather than just break even in clearances.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #96 –
Quote from: pertz – on
I have been saying all year that speed and fast ball movement is our cryptonite.
The Swans play the same way.
The Giants have been a sleeping Giant (pardon the pun).
They are a good side, we have relaxed our pressure and bam..they are back in form.
Not worried about losing but I am about mot being able to put the clamps on them.

I've been saying it for years and that's why we can't afford to get slower with a 2nd ruck. We need as much run speed and carry as we can get

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #97 –
Aside from the Richmond game, has there been an instance where Orasio hadn’t been subbed off?
It’s not good enough. We should be able to sub off a player based off the needs of the game and players performance - not be forced into the same player subbed off every time.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #98 –
Has Charlie shifted himself into defence tonight?

Has the right to do it to stop the run ons, but I haven't seen him do it.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #99 –
Geez Harry is struggling helping out with ruck duties. He only has 5 goals. Imagine if he wasn't rucking. Lol

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #100 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Has Charlie shifted himself into defence tonight?

Has the right to do it to stop the run ons, but I haven't seen him do it.
Voss hasn't been overly inventive with moves imo.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #101 –
Quote from: LP – on
And there it is, the stats to the rescue, lucky for us!
Actually, the stats of clearances are 20 times better than stats of tap outs.
 

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #103 –
Folks looking for single reasons for this debacle are barking up the wrong tree.

There are a dozen reasons things are going wrong out there tonight... team selections, injuries (I suspect carried into the game and during the game), lack of form (Curnow),  returning players still finding their feet.

Our perssure and work rate is no where near what it should be...and when that is down we struggle

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 In Game Angst Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #104 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
I think with our slower bigger mids we need to dominate rather than just break even in clearances.
Our slower Mids need unequivocal first use, if they don't get it we are forked, run has nothing to do with it because first use means we have the footy and it's about good ball use after that. All these calling for run basically do so from a point of concession.

What is happening to us tonight, partially by accident, is what we did to the Handbaggers a couple of weeks back for their deliberate arrogance.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"