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Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #30 –
Quote from: laj – on
Lots of spin there. Been crap for us for years. Never been great with 2 rucks.
There is no spin in those summaries at all, it's history as it happened.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #31 –
Very disappointing game.

We had a ton to play and for 2 weeks we missed a massive chance to lock us in the top 4 and we failed both weeks.
To have a mid table team beat us effort wise when they were undermanned and in our captains big game was the most frustrating part. Was so annoyed with charlie playing selfishly again and newman sh1te me to tears and was undisciplined and dumb. Marchbank is way off the pace and looks completely unsure of himself. Theres others too that were very well beaten
I really thought these losses were behind us clearly not.
Its sydney then daylight unfortunately

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #32 –
Quote from: laj – on
Lots of spin there. Been crap for us for years. Never been great with 2 rucks.

Our strength is our pressure. When it is on no-one beats us. Playing 2 rucks detracts from that. Pitto v Hewitt, who is in the 2nds right now. Hewitt all day long.
Yep...Hewett has been in good form, Why would you leave him out in two big games vs teams with good quality mids?
And then to top it off make Kennedy the sub in todays game with Hewett out?

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #33 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Why does he always come with both barrells when we get beaten but never praises us after a good win??😕

You must have missed some of my other posts in prewvious weeks then.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #34 –
Lack of run and influence from high half forwards - lost it at selection table again.
Bewildering what goes on at selection committee.
We needed Hewett, Kennedy, Cunners and Motlop out there today.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #35 –
Motlop isn't fast don't know why people think he is.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Motlop isn't fast don't know why people think he is.
Our strength is our pressure. We are never going to be fast but, as we have shown, when the pressure is up it's never an issue.

We are best at pressure, stoppage, and this year, turnover game. When our pressure drops the rest drops then we are exposed.

At our worst we still just lose by a couple of goals. We be back smacking side in a couple of weeks. We struggle to shake North for a half next week then crush them in the 2nd half.
 

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #37 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Motlop isn't fast don't know why people think he is.

Not sure anyone said he was.

He is fast thinking and fast acting though. Something out of nothing.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #38 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Very disappointing game.

We had a ton to play and for 2 weeks we missed a massive chance to lock us in the top 4 and we failed both weeks.
To have a mid table team beat us effort wise when they were undermanned and in our captains big game was the most frustrating part. Was so annoyed with charlie playing selfishly again and newman sh1te me to tears and was undisciplined and dumb. Marchbank is way off the pace and looks completely unsure of himself. Theres others too that were very well beaten
I really thought these losses were behind us clearly not.
Its sydney then daylight unfortunately


Sydney's only just got back winning today against North, after 2 losses. We get the same against north next week. As I said earlier, Pies, lost round 20, 21 and 23 last year leading to the finals. Once we start winning we won't lose again bar a dead rubber if it gets to that.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #39 –
Hewett was dropped for team balance. How's that going?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #40 –
Quote from: LP – on
The ruck stuff is really just a correlation fans want to blame, it's a simple association to make, our Mids got better service this week, and we've still lost the midfield. We've only broke even in centre clearances yet Pitto and TDK gave 4 or 5 alone, English had none!

It really isn't and that's a very simplistic view.   Regardless of the two rucks our midfield isn't quick.   Cripps, Cerra, Kennedy and Hewett while all best 22 on ability struggle with the spread of the quick sides.  Last week the Giants had +82 uncontested possessions and +35 marks.   They just controlled the football.   We spread like treacle.  We need to compete with the likes of Heeney, Warner, Gulden and co.   Having a TDK as a sole ruck helps as he can play like a midfielder.   Also allows us to play someone like Hewett who can play like a defensive midfielder at contests on Libba or Bont.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #41 –
The Dogs are far from a terrible team - inconsistent and erratic yes, but they've played plenty of good footy this season.

The Dogs are in a similar position to GWS last week : backs against the wall, with time running out to make finals. They turned up firing on all cylinders.

The competition is super tight. We've come off a tough patch of footy, and the boys looked off the pace today. Hopefully the North game next week will be an easy win and a percentage booster, and allow for a small reset.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #42 –
2 wins 5 losses with TDK and Pittonet playing. It's over.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #43 –
Quote from: LP – on
Rnd 5; Lost Saad early, cost us dearly.
Rnd 7; Kicked 15-15 to lose to Handbaggers 18-10.
Rnd 8; Leading late, Walsh let Daicos run through a stoppage unchecked to score the winner.
Rnd 10; Smashed by Sydney with Grundy among the best.
Rnd 18; Lost to Bulldogs, English probably BoG.

The idea we could go with one ruck and compete against a rampant English with Darcy as a backup is somewhat bizarre, so fans think less ruck capacity is a win? Pitto held his own at stoppages but didn't take a single mark which is costly, but he and TDK got 4 of our 13 centre clearances, Bulldogs had 13 centre clearances also, but English got none. If we blame the rucks we are masking the problem.
Blaming Pitto is neither fair nor reasonable. He more than held his own. The Dogs were aware of what we were doing in the ruck and planned our advantages away until Cripps stormed back into the game. Darcy, for example, twice did to Tom de Koning what Tom usually does to others. It wasn't his fault: the Dogs did their homework and nullified our centre clearances.
Midfielders:
[1] Sam Walsh: 27 possessions but 3 clearances. Sam got the ball, but did nothing with it. Usually, he outworks his opponents, but he struggled to break away today.
[2] Adam Cerra: 19 possessions, but his opponents ... His kicking was good, but he didn't have much impact.
[3] Matthew Kennedy: had no impact at all, which is unusual. He was almost invisible.
[4] Lachie Fogarty: had a shocker. His missed goal really hurt us.

Tom got the ball a bit, but did nothing in the centre square.
The Dogs just ran out time and time again, and killed us on the ground.

Charlie: he is clearly not 100%, but 3 goals SEVEN! He kicks 7 goals 3 and the game is different.
H: dominated early and disappeared totally. Was it our fault? Good defending, or just that we couldn't get decent centre clearances?
Matt Owies: a dominant quarter and then nothing. Nada!
Matt Cottrell: should have come via the VFL. He was terrible today. Must be dropped until he gains some form.
Zac Williams: he didn't do a lot when he was on, but his superior disposal was missed when he went off.

Marchbank was ordinary today. Ollie H started well enough, but he dropped out of the game like he was shot.

We just weren't on. We dropped crucial marks, which cost us. We couldn't buy a free kick for all the tackling we did. Holding the man? Gone. Our kicking for goal: that was dreadful, and not just Charlie.

A lot of thought necessary or we'll be embarrassed next Sunday.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #44 –
5 of our 6 losses with 2 rucks.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!