AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #75 – July 25, 2024, 05:45:03 pm

Quote from: pertz – on July 25, 2024, 04:34:42 pm

Just heard Acres is out tomorrow night..

Thats a massive loss but a rest will do him good.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #76 – July 25, 2024, 06:00:40 pm

Would love Acres out there but hopefully it's a position we can cover with Cottrell/Carroll/Binns etc.....or get Cerra up on a wing and out of half back where he was pretty ordinary last week. Assuming Boyd comes back in we don't need Cerra down back and still frees up Cincotta to do a run with roll on one of Butters/Rozee/JHF.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #77 – July 25, 2024, 06:05:41 pm

Get Cerra back in the middle. Give Walsh a run on the wing.

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Reply #78 – July 25, 2024, 06:13:41 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on July 25, 2024, 06:05:41 pm

Get Cerra back in the middle. Give Walsh a run on the wing.

Cerra has been ordinary since he has come back..not a shadow of the player he was last year.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #79 – July 25, 2024, 06:20:12 pm

Quote from: pertz – on July 25, 2024, 06:13:41 pm

Cerra has been ordinary since he has come back..not a shadow of the player he was last year.

He fid the first hammy then he hit top form against Melbourne but then did it again. Hopefully he hits form before the finals.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #80 – July 25, 2024, 06:22:21 pm

IN:
Brodie Kemp,
Mitch McGovern,
Marc Pittonet

OUT:
Sam Durdin (Injured),
Blake Acres (Injured),
Tom De Koning (Injured)

Bench, including sub....
[2] Lachlan Cowan,
[39] Alex Cincotta,
[28] David Cuningham,
[44] Matthew Owies,
[16] Jack Carroll

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #81 – July 25, 2024, 06:31:18 pm

Jack Martin not even an Emergency

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #82 – July 25, 2024, 06:31:51 pm

Pretty good INs tbh
Maybe a bit too heavy, but looks OK

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #83 – July 25, 2024, 06:51:45 pm

I think that ship has sailed I'm afraid Pinot.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #84 – July 25, 2024, 07:23:52 pm

Quote from: shawny – on July 25, 2024, 12:13:43 pm

Charlie is a star and i never said anything otherwise BUT his raw ability doesn't exclude him from criticism if he is not giving his absolute all.

Tom Hafey was renowned for saying the one non negotiable to being a long term successful team is every single player must give 100% all the time regardless of the different levels of ability.

Want to see Charlie run his player ragged and attack every contest like it matters. He has athletic ability very few defenders can go through. He is not doing that at the moment and stats showing how good his year is or saying other teams would want him in a heartbeat doesn't change my point.

Our flag hopes rests on every player buying in 100% from the best player to the worst player. Collingwood were not the best team last year ability wise but they took the cup home.

David King has an interesting take on how Charlie’s teammates aren’t making life easy for him and what Harry, Owies, etc need to do to allow Charlie have greater impact. King also details a new weapon Charlie has added to his toolkit:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2024-carlton-flag-chances-hinge-on-charlie-curnow-dominance-video-footage-of-selfish-blues/news-story/4d40b250dc26171bd36b69153fdc098f?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR16W0YhwQMhpxO2se_fl7p5xNdmIDVtbf-OUlPr36Vy4pVKoQmCIrg0hJE_aem_1zF4UUpreqX8ugRCG3qnHw

Makes a lot more sense than swagger, head wobbles and an eye on the Coleman.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #85 – July 25, 2024, 08:13:39 pm

Quote from: pinot – on July 25, 2024, 06:31:18 pm

Jack Martin not even an Emergency

He played managed minutes last week. The only problem is that our 2's have a bye this week.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #86 – July 25, 2024, 08:19:34 pm

Our line-up:

B: [17] Brodie Kemp, [23] Jacob Weitering, [24] Nic Newman
HB: [42] Adam Saad, [11] Mitch McGovern, [5] Adam Cerra
C: [4] Oliver Hollands, [9] Patrick Cripps, [46] Matthew Cottrell
HF: [20] Elijah Hollands, [10] Harry McKay, [7] Matthew Kennedy
F: [8] Lachie Fogarty, [30] Charlie Curnow, [3] Jesse Motlop
R: [27] Marc Pittonet, [18] Sam Walsh, [29] George Hewett
Int: [2] Lachlan Cowan, [39] Alex Cincotta, [28] David Cuningham, [44] Matthew Owies, [16] Jack Carroll

Em: [37] Jordan Boyd, [25] Jaxon Binns, [33] Lewis Young

[1] Cerra was OK at HBF after half time, but he was ordinary in the 1st half. Not a position he knows a lot about. I'd rather have Boyd in.
[2] What does Binns have to do to get a game? get 50 possessions?
[3] Our defence looks a little more predictable, for us, than last week. At least we have enough taller players to do that jobs available.
[3] We will miss Acres. He was down last week, but ...

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #87 – July 25, 2024, 08:32:38 pm

I reckon PA have a real problem with small forwards - their backline is full of slowish big blokes, mostly average apart from Alir.

This game will be won by quick movement of the ball into our forward line - Charlie and Harry won't find it easy to do much out-muscling, their job will be to provide a contest and stop intercepts. I'd love to think Owies, Motlop, Fogarty and Cunningham will have a picnic down there.

If we go slow and drop it onto the forwards heads, we will be slaughtered.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #88 – July 26, 2024, 06:11:45 am

If they pay holding against Aliir Charlie will kick 10.

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Reply #89 – July 26, 2024, 08:17:48 am

Quote from: DJC – on July 25, 2024, 07:23:52 pm

Makes a lot more sense than swagger, head wobbles and an eye on the Coleman.

Hard to say if King's identified a change that is cause or effect.

In terms of form Owies and BigH are on top of the ground at the moment, maybe Charlie's happy to roll them into the pointy end of the season full of confidence. Or maybe it's the MC taking some of the pressure of Charlie to be a solo match winner, sharing the load as it were!

Over the recent period we've also seen Williams come into F50 and change the dynamic significantly, a lot of those crumbing type ground ball goals that fell on Charlie have been Williams in recent weeks.

It will be interesting to see what happens this week with McGovern back in, because so much of what happens going into F50 starts off with decisions made in D50.