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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #45 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
No EB, Matt Carroll from the Sandringham Dragons who has OP. 
He is a rebound half back flanker Prof @190cm, couldnt see him holding down a key defensive post anytime soon and he reminds me of a slightly taller Nic Newman and thats who I would see him replacing in the future.
Apart from Lemmey I dont see any other player on our list with the genuine attributes to play a KP role down back other than the tried and now failed Lewis Young and we need to hit the trade period/draft and moneyball another candidate.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #46 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Always gotta blame the small forwards after every loss.

Starved of opportunities?
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #47 –
Four Port mids in the coaches votes including the top two vote getters Wines and Drew...game over.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #48 –
Quote from: pinot – on
They had no impact so yeah. Need to do better - pressure count was too low.

Motlop has kicked 4 goals in 2 games.

If he managed that for a whole season, he'd win the coleman.
Maybe he isn't the problem.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #49 –
Midfield got beaten and our defenders folded.

Could you imagine our backline trying to contain Charlie and Harry?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #50 –
Also cowan defends well but he gets lost at times stuck between his men.  I don't moan much about our defenders.  Lewis young got the raw end of the stick when he was somehow infringing against esava at every turn.  Those don't get paid much.

Give him time and confidence.  It's amazing what happened to him considering his first 8 games this year.  No one really got hold of him we just elected to drop him out of the side at the first opportunity and then didn't bring him back like we did marchbank. 

I get why but at the same time you hamper youngs ability to grow. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #51 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Motlop has kicked 4 goals in 2 games.

If he managed that for a whole season, he'd win the coleman.
Maybe he isn't the problem.

Kicking goals isn't what I was thinking.

Locking the ball in forward half is.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #52 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Also cowan defends well but he gets lost at times stuck between his men.  I don't moan much about our defenders.  Lewis young got the raw end of the stick when he was somehow infringing against esava at every turn.  Those don't get paid much.

Give him time and confidence.  It's amazing what happened to him considering his first 8 games this year.  No one really got hold of him we just elected to drop him out of the side at the first opportunity and then didn't bring him back like we did marchbank. 

I get why but at the same time you hamper youngs ability to grow. 

Have to go with your best hardened and experienced talents last month.

TDK and Harry missing last week was a huge blow. Will be nice to see Pitto laying one tackle in a game.

Boyd, Blacres, Harry will help if they come in.

 Play Cerra in the midfield and back him in with everything to get the job done he will surprise.

Blacres and Cotts to patrol the wings - Ollie, Carroll and Moo - outski.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #53 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Ollie, Carroll and Moo - outski.
Ollie and Moo won't be getting dropped anytime soon.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #54 –
Cincotta has to play on the good Daicos. For the entire game. Simple as that. If the MC can't figure that one out then all hope is lost

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #55 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Cincotta has to play on the good Daicos. For the entire game. Simple as that. If the MC can't figure that one out then all hope is lost
Got to cover both Daicos kids imo, Degoey not playing will help us...

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #56 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Ollie and Moo won't be getting dropped anytime soon.
Ollie turns it over which vs Collingwood is very problematic and how they score a lot of their goals, I'd be very selective of his opponent too...eg maybe  not Josh Daicos.
Cowan will do a good job on the right player..

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Reply #57 –
Press conference with Sam Walsh - a couple of coughs, a bit of a sniffle and a nose wipe. Not ideal as is is obviously not 100% (even 95% at this stage of the season is of concern). Wonder how many others are slightly off (linked to Harry's bug?)

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Reply #58 –
Listened to SEN tonight. Daniel Hoyne said he is not worried about Carlton, just need to tweek a few things. We are apparently still in good shape overall. Corn also still big on Carlton.
I must have watching a different Carlton over the past 4 weeks. I don't care what the Champion Data metrics say, I am very concerned how we are going.
What was interesting also was that no team over the past 20 years that has won the flag, has lost more than 3 of their last 8 games.
The Swans and us are right on the knife's edge now.
 

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #59 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Listened to SEN tonight. Daniel Hoyne said he is not worried about Carlton, just need to tweek a few things. We are apparently still in good shape overall. Corn also still big on Carlton.
I must have watching a different Carlton over the past 4 weeks. I don't care what the Champion Data metrics say, I am very concerned how we are going.
What was interesting also was that no team over the past 20 years that has won the flag, has lost more than 3 of their last 8 games.
The Swans and us are right on the knife's edge now.


I have a feeling historical statistics can't really be used to determine trends this year.
This year is a bit unique given the closeness of the competition and the number of teams still in contention.
I've heard a few commentators say they haven't seen a season quite like it.

And I think that's  the issue for us....the closeness of the competition.
I'm not so much concerned about our form.
It's the fact that the ladder is so tight we could end up missing out on the type of finishing position that gives us a good chance...or a chance at all.

I can see reasons why we aren't going well, and they're mostly related to injuries at the moment.
Even with those injuries we haven't been beaten by more than three goals in any game in our recent losses.

For those sides flying at present, they will have to manintain that sort of form all the way through.
That's going to be tough.

It's interesting that the Swans are also in a bit of a slump.
It could be that both teams are in heavy training loads at present.
They can afford it a bit more than we can.
Our margin for that sort of luxury is getting a bit thin.

The bottom line is I'd rather us be playing in this sort of form now than in four weeks time.
If we're to be a chance we should be starting to build a bit of momentum that will see us improving and take us into the finals in peak shape.

But, and it's a big 'but', we really have to start that charge now, we can't afford too many more down games.
Which makes this week's game pretty important.