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Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #30 –
Quote from: LP – on
Some bagging Binns, but watching the replay he worked as hard as any out there, and it's a bit silly saying he's not getting enough footy when you see him time after time follow up a disposal with hard running off his opponent but we don't give him the footy. He's a reasonable kick, ran as hard as Walsh, but we largely ignored him.

Maybe they have had him playing a "Billy Brownless Decoy" role, because the burn from his team-mates is otherwise unexplained.

Great game from Ollie, possibly his best, ............... the new Simmo?

I understand some of the criticism of Binnsy early... but as the game wore on and he picked up the pace, he became valuable and looked every bit a natural winger. And he loves a goal. Earned his stripes and we can look forward to the future with this lad.

Like your comparison of Ollie with Simmo. He looks so much better as a defensive (back half) player with license to move around... reads the game well and gets to so many contests.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #31 –
"Not terrified, resigned to what's about happen. WC comfortably."

I think I made a typo in the pre-game thread...

They were relentless yesterday, which was great to see and one of the missing ingredients lately.

It will certainly give Lord, Binns and Moir confidence that they belong.

While St Kilda will be a bit tougher, I hope all the players that are 1-2 weeks on the injury list are given proper time to recover.



Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #32 –
I wouldn't like to see too many changes next week, regardless of who is supposedly "available". It looks like the younger players are playing to the plan, unlike some of our "stars".

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #33 –
That was a much better result than I was anticipating - particularly with West Coast on a winning streak.

I think that it took us a while to put the tactics for our smaller forward line into practice, but they worked exceptionally well.  The boggy patch on the half forward flank did upset a couple of very promising inside 50s in the first quarter.  We had 15 marks inside 50, we've matched that three times this season and bettered it twice, but with Tom, Harry and Charlie providing the marking power.

Georgie Hewett was huge but Crippa was huger - 3 votes - P Cripps.  Pitto played the best game I've seen from him and really imposed himself on the game.

I have advocated allowing Kemp to focus on his role in defence but the absence of Charlie and Harry gave him an opportunity to play forward and didn't he grab it with both hands!  Apart from what Kemp showed as a tall forward, the move enabled Young to take his place in defence and his solid work freed up Weitering to do what he does best.  And, while I'm on the defence, Ollie Holland's move to defence paid off and gave Binns an opportunity on the wing.  Both did very well.

Corey Durdin was back to his best form with his defensive pressure and ever-present threat in the forward line.  Sadly, his weakened shoulder wasn't up to a chicken wing.  I think we have try to patch him up and wait until after the season for more permanent repairs.

Cooper Lord looked like he belonged out there and Ashton Moir showed in his cameo that he can play.  He should have nailed his first shot at goal but made up for it with his second.

Motlop didn't get much of the ball but I thought he was still a good contributor with his presence and pressure around contests. 

Everyone else deserves a mention for what was gutsy team performance.

I should mention that Kemp's mindset after playing almost exclusively in defence was an important factor with his work when West Coast had the footy.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #34 –
George has been a very important and unheralded piece of this side for a while, why he was dropped this year...
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #35 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Motlop didn't get much of the ball but I thought he was still a good contributor with his presence and pressure around contests. 
He'll never be quick, but he had a real crack at the footy which he must do, the pressure of his attack brings others around him into the game, it shares the load.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I understand some of the criticism of Binnsy early... but as the game wore on and he picked up the pace, he became valuable and looked every bit a natural winger. And he loves a goal. Earned his stripes and we can look forward to the future with this lad.


I thought he looked like a Scottish Terrier chasing a tennis ball at the beach early.   Just running everywhere without getting to the right spots.   To his credit he seemed to pick up the pace of the game in the 2nd half and did some nice things which was great to see.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #37 –
Quote from: LP – on
He'll never be quick, but he had a real crack at the footy which he must do, the pressure of his attack brings others around him into the game, it shares the load.
We need a hell of a lot more from Jesse than what he brought to the table on the weekend.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #38 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
We need a hell of a lot more from Jesse than what he brought to the table on the weekend.
I thought the same watching live, he needs more of the footy.

But watching the replay you could see him doing a lot of unrewarded physical stuff which made time and space for his team-mates, so I have to give him some credit.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #39 –
Quote from: LP – on
I thought the same watching live, he needs more of the footy.

But watching the replay you could see him doing a lot of unrewarded physical stuff which made time and space for his team-mates, so I have to give him some credit.

Yes, even though he may not be winning the footy, Jesse is never a passenger and his work often sets up teammates.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #40 –
Magnificent team win with some individual highlights too. Pittonet was huge. I genuinely thought both Williams' would work him over around the big ground but he stuck to his guns, broke even in the hitouts but was huge around the ground as well.

Weitering's effort on completely shutting Oscar Allen out of the game was big too. Allen was coming off 5 match winning goals last week against North and was hardly sighted.

Hewett's non-selection for a few weeks was hard to fathom and he showed why he's such an important player. He looks to have a low centre of gravity and hardly ever goes to ground and breaks tackles or gets his arms up and gets rid of the ball when he is tackled.

And Cripps....might be the 3 votes that clinches him another Brownlow. He is a beast and any thoughts that some had about trading him out should be put to bed now. He is Carlton through and through and is there to lead the club to a flag.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #41 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
Hewett's non-selection for a few weeks was hard to fathom and he showed why he's such an important player. He looks to have a low centre of gravity and hardly ever goes to ground and breaks tackles or gets his arms up and gets rid of the ball when he is tackled.
We are never going to know for certain, but when you see Hewett and Kennedy go at it the last couple of weeks you have to ask the question.

Is that freshen up working?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #42 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Yes, even though he may not be winning the footy, Jesse is never a passenger and his work often sets up teammates.

Not sure about that....I was at the game and he was pretty ineffectual for most of the day. No possessions for the first half? His goal was opportunist, which he should be taking advantage of. He could have kicked it with his eyes shut. He just doesn't do it often enough. Take away the goal and he would be the lowest AF ranked Carlton player for the day.

He has the skill but was passenger like for most of the day. His 'work' is not that influential but, granted, it is a positive. At this stage of his development he should be contributing much more in terms of directly impacting the game.

 

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #43 –
Cripps is a great player, if he ever leaves we will plummet like a rock down the ladder, he carries this team on his back more than any other Carlton player I have ever seen including Judd and other greats of the club.
Going to be a sad day when he retires or god forbid leaves the club, happy we beat WC so easily and its probably put him off considering leaving to go home.
Cant get any better than screwing over Collingwoods finals chances, seeing Essendon crash out and Cripps dominate a WC team, thats a successful weekends work..

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #44 –
I'm certainly happy for the win, and happy for the 4 points, but one has to wonder whether WC were trying and were outplayed, or whether they put the cue in the rack. It was a lacklustre effort IMO. Shame about those injuries. It's the very last thing we need.