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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #240
If Doc is fit to play, he has to start, so why not as a defensive forward on Zorko? Moir as sub?

Five years since I was last here, Bolton was coach, the Judge was Pres and was it Trigg as CEO????

Doesn’t time fly when you’re having fun!

It’s good to see one of the old regulars back in the fray.  I hope your footy team goes well this weekend :)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #241
Cerra Gov and Martin are very risky given their soft tissue woes.
Be very typical of us if correct. Half fit players with a name in the side ahead of younger blokes, who are performing and gave us some run that we lacked.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #242
Be very typical of us if correct. Half fit players with a name in the side ahead of younger blokes, who are performing and gave us some run that we lacked.
How many young blokes with only a few games of experience do you bring into a cut throat final against the battle hardened Lions? We may think selections are risky but I am sure the team that's selected will be ready to go to give us the bestt chance of winning.
Just on finals experience, I saw a photo yesterday that showed we have the most number of players (29) with finals experience which I assume meant on our list. Next were
Swans 28
Lions 27
Port and GWS 26
WB 24
Geel 23
Haw 12
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #243
OK folks, so here is the VERY early oil I have on selection.
Ins : Cerra, Doc, McGovern, McKay and  ..... Martin (as the sub)
Outs : Binns, Carroll, Lord, Moir & Owies.
Charlie couldn't get up nor could TDK and  Williams
Disappointing that none of the young blokes get a run and somehow Motlop and Fantasia survive. Needless to say if we lose the MC will cop a fair bit of criticism and rightfully so.
No Charlie and No TDK is the word in the street so your mail could be spot on.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #244
If half fit names play, break down or are simply crap, the torches and pitchfork stall might rock up to Royal parade.

Big no to Martin, and very leery about McG, Cerra and Williams.
Motlop and Fantasia need to do a lot better than 5 kicks and 1 tackle.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #245
OK folks, so here is the VERY early oil I have on selection.
Ins : Cerra, Doc, McGovern, McKay and  ..... Martin (as the sub)
Outs : Binns, Carroll, Lord, Moir & Owies.
Charlie couldn't get up nor could TDK and  Williams
Disappointing that none of the young blokes get a run and somehow Motlop and Fantasia survive. Needless to say if we lose the MC will cop a fair bit of criticism and rightfully so.

I bet even the MC doesn't know our final side as yet. Especially considering there's another training run tomorrow!

My real concern is all the marketing and attention given to the sentimentality of Doc's selection. A wonderful feel good and good news story, and no doubt will lift the lads, momentarily... but... how much of a distraction might it also be? Apologies for being a wet blanket, but there's a very real risk associated with a bloke who hasn't played in heat for so many months.

Hopefully the coaching group is more than aware of the risk of distraction and the risk of limited exposure to game day pressure and expectations for Doc. After five minutes on the field, it's no longer about the romance but about hard-nosed delivery of the job at hand; the harsh reality of the huge task ahead of Doc and the rest of us.

Brisvegas is the red hot favourite for this game, for good reasons. Reality. We're the deserved underdogs.

Selection will be a real balancing act. You can't risk taking too many injury prone blokes into a final. There are in form kids who've delivered over the past few games and deserve inclusion, and a number of blokes lacking match fitness who are susceptible to breaking down, regardless of reputation.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #246
How many young blokes with only a few games of experience do you bring into a cut throat final against the battle hardened Lions? We may think selections are risky but I am sure the team that's selected will be ready to go to give us the bestt chance of winning.
Just on finals experience, I saw a photo yesterday that showed we have the most number of players (29) with finals experience which I assume meant on our list. Next were
Swans 28
Lions 27
Port and GWS 26
WB 24
Geel 23
Haw 12

The 3 that are performing...Lord, Binns with Moir sub. Always pick blokes who are fit and in form. Rule 101!

That has to be better than bringing in those that have missed huge chunks of the year and won't be near match ready for a final. Only way you win is with a fit side out there. Otherwise we get run over. Our slump started bringing in half fit, out of form players and killed our run.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #247
The 3 that are performing...Lord, Binns with Moir sub. Always puck blokes who are fit and in form. Rule 101!

That has to be better than bringing in those that have missed huge chunks of the year and won't be near match ready for a final. Only way you win is with a fit side out there. Otherwise we get run over. Our slump started bringing in half fit, out of form players and killed our run.
People are forgetting you need match fit players and Brisbane are at full strength on their quick home deck.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #248
People are forgetting you need match fit players and Brisbane are at full strength on their quick home deck.
Agreed, we've been good for full games most of the season, even in the losses were we running over opponents late in many games, finishing stronger, we just lacked the polish to get the job done. Take away that finishing ability by only playing 3/4 and we move further away from success, especially in finals.

However specifically on Doc, I've no fear that he'll present himself in perfect 4-Qtr condition, the others I'm not so confident about.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #249
Don't trust Martin and McG and Williams to front up fit.  Saying you are and actually are are two different things.  A quarter in and it's down into the room to get restrapped, extended stints on the bench ...
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #250
People are forgetting you need match fit players and Brisbane are at full strength on their quick home deck.
If we go in with the same team as last week we will get pumped
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #251
I bet even the MC doesn't know our final side as yet. Especially considering there's another training run tomorrow!

My real concern is all the marketing and attention given to the sentimentality of Doc's selection. A wonderful feel good and good news story, and no doubt will lift the lads, momentarily... but... how much of a distraction might it also be? Apologies for being a wet blanket, but there's a very real risk associated with a bloke who hasn't played in heat for so many months.

Hopefully the coaching group is more than aware of the risk of distraction and the risk of limited exposure to game day pressure and expectations for Doc. After five minutes on the field, it's no longer about the romance but about hard-nosed delivery of the job at hand; the harsh reality of the huge task ahead of Doc and the rest of us.

Brisvegas is the red hot favourite for this game, for good reasons. Reality. We're the deserved underdogs.

Selection will be a real balancing act. You can't risk taking too many injury prone blokes into a final. There are in form kids who've delivered over the past few games and deserve inclusion, and a number of blokes lacking match fitness who are susceptible to breaking down, regardless of reputation.
Whilst they might be raging favourite, Bris have a poor record against top 10 teams. Saw something this morning on it, cant find it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #252
Whilst they might be raging favourite, Bris have a poor record against top 10 teams. Saw something this morning on it, cant find it.

I'm far from giving up on us, in fact I'm strangely optimistic, but a lot of things need to go right. And it starts with the MC. I strongly believe our culture is superior to Brisvegas, but we need right people on the paddock on Saturday night... blokes who can and will last for 120 minutes of relentless pressure; blokes whose bodies are up for the challenge... we know their hearts and minds are up for it.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #253
The important training session was yesterday not Sat.

Yes, and we’ve got a couple more sessions before the team is finalised.

My point is that blokes who can’t train on Saturday are unlikely to return to full match fitness by the following Tuesday.  I don’t expect to see Cerra and Martin in the 23.  If they are selected, I will be surprised if they (a) perform anywhere near their best, and (b) stay on the park.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #254
I'm far from giving up on us, in fact I'm strangely optimistic, but a lot of things need to go right. And it starts with the MC. I strongly believe our culture is superior to Brisvegas, but we need right people on the paddock on Saturday night... blokes who can and will last for 120 minutes of relentless pressure; blokes whose bodies are up for the challenge... we know their hearts and minds are up for it.
Right now, I have faith the MC will pick the side that will give us the best chance of winning and they will have reasons and data to back the selections (that we simply aren't privy to). Of course after the fact (ie hindsight) it wont stop us from professing to have known better.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership