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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #15 –
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Was hoping to face the Doggies without Lobb, was sure he would go for the hit on Cox. 'Accidental', I didn't think that was an excuse when you hit head high,  and especially when you draw blood.
That outcome was probably set the moment the commentators started calling it as "He missed the footy", but it didn't look like a realistic attempt to me.

Some of you will recall when Enright missed the footy by about a metre and cleaned up Warnock, Enright wasn't even reported either!

We've seen some seriously bizarre decisions this weekend, it's the new world we live in!
It was an attempted spoil that missed every day of the week and twice on Sundays, a football accident. Dunno what the Enright one has to do with this one.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #16 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: deepbluesee – on
Was hoping to face the Doggies without Lobb, was sure he would go for the hit on Cox. 'Accidental', I didn't think that was an excuse when you hit head high,  and especially when you draw blood.
That outcome was probably set the moment the commentators started calling it as "He missed the footy", but it didn't look like a realistic attempt to me.

Some of you will recall when Enright missed the footy by about a metre and cleaned up Warnock, Enright wasn't even reported either!

We've seen some seriously bizarre decisions this weekend, it's the new world we live in!
Lobb is a large human but has never been known for violent play or anything nasty in my memory and in fact has probably been accused of being more on the timid side for a player of his dimensions so it would be out of character for him to belt Cox deliberately  imho and Id be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on the intent factor.
Its whether any head high contact including accidental is automatically a suspension or is each case judged on merit and more likely the past history of the players involved?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #17 –
bring in Quicks ,tackles tackles, pressure and kemp to defence

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #18 –
Quote from: LP – on
Some of you will recall when Enright missed the footy by about a metre and cleaned up Warnock, Enright wasn't even reported either!

Thought that was Bartell who hit him.
Was at the game with a Geelong mate of mine.
Said there was no contact at the time.
A night in hospital with concussion suggested otherwise.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #19 –
I’d never seen Lobb hit anyone before or even be that aggressive but he sure looked like he made a beeline for Cox this time.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #20 –
I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #21 –
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I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?
Training enough.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #22 –
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I’d never seen Lobb hit anyone before or even be that aggressive but he sure looked like he made a beeline for Cox this time.

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Lachie Plowman was still stiff if Lobb got off!!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #23 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?

Someone will be able to confirm for sure, but i seem to remember that we were focussing on power this off-season.
It seems to be at the expense of our endurance.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #24 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?
The opposition tactics in general have changed, before we had to compete with just one or two opponents playing the chaos style game for just a quarter here or there, now the bulk of the competition have turned it into the default four quarter game style.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #25 –
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Quote from: tonyo – on
I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?

Someone will be able to confirm for sure, but i seem to remember that we were focussing on power this off-season.
It seems to be at the expense of our endurance.
I think when you are a slow team and you tire the endurance angle gets magnified, not sure our players have over powered anyone yet either apart from TDK who looks to have got stronger.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #26 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
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I cannot believe how underdone we look.  Some of the other teams are playing out of their brains, while we try to remember how to play footy again.

What are we not doing over summer?

Someone will be able to confirm for sure, but i seem to remember that we were focussing on power this off-season.
It seems to be at the expense of our endurance.

Probably need to wait a bit longer to see how this pans out.
It's not really an either or thing.
And I doubt we've seen the benefits of the training in these early stages...that may well come.
It's also about finding the balance between the two.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #27 –
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Someone will be able to confirm for sure, but i seem to remember that we were focussing on power this off-season.
It seems to be at the expense of our endurance.

Probably need to wait a bit longer to see how this pans out.
It's not really an either or thing.
And I doubt we've seen the benefits of the training in these early stages...that may well come.
It's also about finding the balance between the two.

I just found it an odd claim from the club to focus on our strength, and not on our weakness.

The games we got embarrassed was not because we were overpowerred, but largely because we had rings run around us. A trend that has continued thus far this year.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #28 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on

 
Probably need to wait a bit longer to see how this pans out.
It's not really an either or thing.
And I doubt we've seen the benefits of the training in these early stages...that may well come.
It's also about finding the balance between the two.

I just found it an odd claim from the club to focus on our strength, and not on our weakness.

The games we got embarrassed was not because we were overpowerred, but largely because we had rings run around us. A trend that has continued thus far this year.

One explanation could be that the powers that be believe that the 'power' game is where our strength lies.
That's the focus...the attack, pressure, intensity, strength, stoppage, clearance

Teams like the Hawks play a different game-precision, skill, run

Now the Hawks are playing their style at the moment at the top of their game.
We're a mile off ours.

But will that be the case all through the year.
Will we get closer to the level we want to play.
Those 'skilful sides' can go to water under intense pressure.
Can teams like the Hawks maintain it for a full season.

What style will hold up better in a finals game.
Our issue is that we don't fall so far behind that we don't get the opportunity to test it.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Lods – on
One explanation could be that the powers that be believe that the 'power' game is where our strength lies.
That's the focus...the attack, pressure, intensity, strength, stoppage, clearance
I don't think there is any "could" in that "believe", it's fairly obvious to the point of distraction that the power game is our strength!

Our problem in both opening games is two fold, not creating enough stoppages to take advantage of our strength, and not being able to arrest opposition progress when they get free.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"