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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #90 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
Francis Evans in - it’s too much

Haynes, Young, Evans. WTF is going on?

Go through the entire list.

Rank them in order from most games played.
Pick the first 23 players that are not on the injuries list (or have personal leave)

Those 23 players are the exact blokes in the side.

So why?
Thats who we have available..

Moir makes most sense and after him I would have taken Binns before Evans,  even in Evans preferred position.

To be honest I just don’t get Evans based on current VFL form (bad) or past performances (bad)

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #91 –
Quote from: Sexybronco – on
Quote from: rocky – on
Jordan Boyd,
Francis Evans
IN

Lucas Camporeale,
Cooper Lord
OUT

Cannot believe what's going on with selection. I'm speechless

The outs make sense to me, Lucas was physically spent and not able to run out the game last week while Cooper Lord has been way off the pace for the last 2 games, not a knock on the long term future of either lad.
Agree, hearing on the grapevine that another player is having personal issues also so there may be another out. Hope not.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #92 –
Got to feel for these kids sometimes I know they are making good money but when you see your own feral supporters hanging around the race yelling horrible abuse after a loss.
Then to have to come out and say you love the supporters passion because your told to must question if it’s all worth it.  Even on here during the game feed some of the comments get borderline

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #93 –
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on
Got to feel for these kids sometimes I know they are making good money but when you see your own feral supporters hanging around the race yelling horrible abuse after a loss.
Then to have to come out and say you love the supporters passion because your told to must question if it’s all worth it.  Even on here during the game feed some of the comments get borderline

I agree.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #94 –
Our line-up for this week:

B:  [33] Lewis Young  [23] Jacob Weitering  [2] Lachlan Cowan
HB:  [42] Adam Saad  [11] Mitch McGovern  [4] Oliver Hollands
C: [13] Blake Acres  [9] Patrick Cripps  [46] Matthew Cottrell
HF:  [3] Jesse Motlop  [1] Jack Silvagni  [8] Lachie Fogarty
F: [17] Brodie Kemp  [30] Charlie Curnow  [15] Sam Docherty
R: [12] Tom De Koning  [5] Adam Cerra  [29] George Hewett
Int:  [26] Nick Haynes  [18] Sam Walsh  [37] Jordan Boyd  [6] Zac Williams  [44] Francis Evans

EM:  [21] Lucas Camporeale  [38] Will White  [43] Ashton Moir

I guess this is close to the best we can manage at the moment, but it is a long way from our best line-up.
[1] I wouldn't have selected Evans. I haven't seen enough good football from him yet. Maybe he has some; he did play for 2 other clubs, but I just don't see it yet. I would have preferred Will White. White can kick goals and he has some pace. He might be very light, but he tackles like he means it.
Then again, maybe Frank the Tank can make me look like a fool. It wouldn't be the first time.

[2] I can understand Camporeale going out. He's had a taste; a couple of good VFL games and he might be ready for another. He has work to do on his disposal, but much of that may improve as he gets used to the pace of the game.

[3] I'd play Walsh on a wing and let him stay there all day. He needs to run himself into form, and not getting clobbered every clearance would be a start.

[4] Acres is so far from his best at the moment that I barely recognize him. I hope he can pick up some form, as we need him dominating his wing.

[5] Who is going to give Tom a cut out? They have Lobb and Darcy who dwarve our guys. Not sure this is a winning strategy.

[6] Cowan to Liberatore is a possible move. We need to squash Libba flat, as he provides their clearances.

[7] Our forward line is not looking healthy. Hopefully Charlie can do a little better this week, but I'm not expecting much.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #95 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


He didn't train the other day, so whatever the issue is, it seems to be hanging around.
If Charlies efforts last week are anything to go by, its best we give Harry as much time as he needs. We can't afford 2 non-contributers in the same forwardline.

What I have heard from an inside source is that Harry has mental health issues and may not play for the rest of the year

Spot on
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #96 –
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Go through the entire list.

Rank them in order from most games played.
Pick the first 23 players that are not on the injuries list (or have personal leave)

Those 23 players are the exact blokes in the side.

So why?
Thats who we have available..

Moir makes most sense and after him I would have taken Binns before Evans,  even in Evans preferred position.

To be honest I just don’t get Evans based on current VFL form (bad) or past performances (bad)

Moir barely touched the ball and Binns was average in their VFL game.  Evans was excellent in the VFL in terms of the defensive pressure he applied … and that’s his job.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #97 –
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on
Got to feel for these kids sometimes I know they are making good money but when you see your own feral supporters hanging around the race yelling horrible abuse after a loss.
Then to have to come out and say you love the supporters passion because your told to must question if it’s all worth it.  Even on here during the game feed some of the comments get borderline

There is an excellent article in the HUN outlining Harry’s mental health issues and the experiences of former players, Wayne Schwass and Daisy Thomas.  It’s worth reading before speculating about drug use.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #98 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: JonDorotich – on


Moir makes most sense and after him I would have taken Binns before Evans,  even in Evans preferred position.

To be honest I just don’t get Evans based on current VFL form (bad) or past performances (bad)

Moir barely touched the ball and Binns was average in their VFL game.  Evans was excellent in the VFL in terms of the defensive pressure he applied … and that’s his job.

I just see more upside in Moir

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #99 –
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
Quote from: DJC – on


Moir barely touched the ball and Binns was average in their VFL game.  Evans was excellent in the VFL in terms of the defensive pressure he applied … and that’s his job.

I just see more upside in Moir

Upside, and no tackles, doesn't get you a game ...
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #100 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on
Got to feel for these kids sometimes I know they are making good money but when you see your own feral supporters hanging around the race yelling horrible abuse after a loss.
Then to have to come out and say you love the supporters passion because your told to must question if it’s all worth it.  Even on here during the game feed some of the comments get borderline

There is an excellent article in the HUN outlining Harry’s mental health issues and the experiences of former players, Wayne Schwass and Daisy Thomas.  It’s worth reading before speculating about drug use.

Its not drug use - he broke up with his girlfriend. Seriously how soft are these blokes... there is no way he should not be performing at a high level over a girlfriend. It actually sickens me and should be put on the trade table.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #101 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Quote from: DJC – on


There is an excellent article in the HUN outlining Harry’s mental health issues and the experiences of former players, Wayne Schwass and Daisy Thomas.  It’s worth reading before speculating about drug use.

Its not drug use - he broke up with his girlfriend. Seriously how soft are these blokes... there is no way he should not be performing at a high level over a girlfriend. It actually sickens me and should be put on the trade table.
Little things can add up to a larger problem
Still adds up to overall mental health no matter what the cause is. I see and hear the toll it can take
I still remember the tragedy of Rhett Baynes and lots of others in our community.
Can’t all be hard men like you

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #102 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Quote from: DJC – on


There is an excellent article in the HUN outlining Harry’s mental health issues and the experiences of former players, Wayne Schwass and Daisy Thomas.  It’s worth reading before speculating about drug use.

Its not drug use - he broke up with his girlfriend. Seriously how soft are these blokes... there is no way he should not be performing at a high level over a girlfriend. It actually sickens me and should be put on the trade table.
These are the exact type of comments online that are hurtful and do damage to people who are struggling (with things you might not). We need to be better.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #103 –
Quote from: pinot link=msg=435327
Its not drug use - he broke up with his girlfriend. Seriously how soft are these blokes... there is no way he should not be performing at a high level over a girlfriend. It actually sickens me and should be put on the trade table.

It’s not uncommon for people with pre existing mental health/ anxiety issues to be triggered by things the rest of us may consider trivial. He’s not soft. We need greater understanding of these issues, not more derision.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #104 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
It’s not uncommon for people with pre existing mental health/ anxiety issues to be triggered by things the rest of us may consider trivial. He’s not soft. We need greater understanding of these issues, not more derision.
Yes, it's very true, we can try to understand what life is like in someone else's shoes but we can never know. ;)

@pinot Samson was debilitated by a hair cut, and Achilles was nearly invulnerable!

We don't know what happens behind the scenes, the break up might be a cause not an effect, as I've mentioned both McKay boys look off the pace at the moment. There will be more to this than we will ever know, and when the media speculate about an ultimate cause, they just expose their own ignorance.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"