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Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #30
How about our mental health...  Thirty years welded on to the most depressing relationship, supporting this f****d up exercise.
Joke coaching.
Joke list management.
Joke selections.
Joke fitness regime.
Keep wheeling out the same crap trucks who don't deliver week after week.
Same players making the same mistakes.

Supporting Carlton is an abusive relationship.
mate, I empathise whole heartedly.

All I can offer you is perspective.  People wonder  why do bad things happen to people.  Why do they get sick.  Why do people die young.

I think this is nature (or if you are religious Gods) way of teaching everyone perspective and how we should be greatful for the good, and recognise the bad for what they are.

It's just footy.

I attended a funeral of a 49 year old woman 2 weeks ago.  Her husband is a relative of mine.  His mum passed away at the same age when he was still a youngster.  He had the misfortune of finding his dad dead in bed a few years later.  So orphaned as a pre teen/teenager, he and his older brother were effectively raised by my uncle and aunty. 

If he can find the strength to continue living life in the face of adversity, then we must remember its just footy.

Whilst our players frustrate the hell out of me at times these are all young men, playing football.  If some of the fan noise and yelling I hear was said to a child of mine, I don't know how I'd react.

It's just footy.  It's been a hard time, but thats what made the last couple of seasons so worthwhile.   Stick fat the wheel will turn.

I too am impatient, but the one thing that I learned out of 2012 was that impatience can lead to catastrophe and sometimes understanding where you're at is more important than worrying about where you aren't.

I checked yesterday and today and the sun still came up. It’s just a game. I have long suffering family members who aren’t old enough like some of us to enjoy seeing the cup raised. I keep telling them that it’s just a game.

We know that players from the bygone era had their demons, and some have come forward in recent times. Sadly some have taken it a step further. The problem is not a new one, it’s been around forever, it’s just we are more aware than ever about today and thankfully those who need help have better avenues than ever.

These  lads earn huge money, completely disproportionate to the overwhelming majority of the community especially for their age. This builds expectation on them and envy in others.
When there’re selected high in the draft expectations are set.
The regime they apply to themselves in the attempt to get drafted can be off the charts. They don’t lives the life of their peers.
Social media is a f*&#ing emotional blowtorch.

I think this modern age exacerbates this problem that has existed forever, and it frustrates the hell out of me that it feels like there is no unwinding where we are now.




Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #31
Nice work, Bobby. Really healthy perspective.

Loved the 'social media is a f*****g emotional blowtorch comment. I just don't get how the owners of these social media platforms get away with such poor and irresponsible control of content.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #32
Nice work, Bobby. Really healthy perspective.

Loved the 'social media is a f*****g emotional blowtorch comment. I just don't get how the owners of these social media platforms get away with such poor and irresponsible control of content.

When Elon & Zucc’s worlds turn upside down they might be (self) interested in changing that but don’t hold your breath.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #33
Nice work, Bobby. Really healthy perspective.

Loved the 'social media is a f*****g emotional blowtorch comment. I just don't get how the owners of these social media platforms get away with such poor and irresponsible control of content.

When Elon & Zucc’s worlds turn upside down they might be (self) interested in changing that but don’t hold your breath.

Musk has already declared that he sees empathy as a weakness. I'd only expect the worst from this bloke, and he'll probably find a way to go even lower.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #34
Musk has already declared that he sees empathy as a weakness. I'd only expect the worst from this bloke, and he'll probably find a way to go even lower.

It's actually a real issue across the right wing spectrum. Crapping on empathy is all over social media, like the hottest ticket in town.

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #35
Musk has already declared that he sees empathy as a weakness. I'd only expect the worst from this bloke, and he'll probably find a way to go even lower.

It's actually a real issue across the right wing spectrum. Crapping on empathy is all over social media, like the hottest ticket in town.


Yep, I have encountered this breath-taking failure within small but powerful and influential individuals myself. There are clinical diagnoses for these sad folks - narcissism chief among them.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #36
Musk has already declared that he sees empathy as a weakness. I'd only expect the worst from this bloke, and he'll probably find a way to go even lower.

It's actually a real issue across the right wing spectrum. Crapping on empathy is all over social media, like the hottest ticket in town.

I dont see it as a right wing thing, just turds of people in general.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

 

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #37
I dont see it as a right wing thing, just turds of people in general.

Actually, the research does show that right wing authoritarianism is closely connected with a lack of empathy.

I'm not even close to being an expert, but cognitive scientists, evolutionary psychologists, neuroscientists and others have done a lot of work in this area, mostly under the broad umbrella of the Theory Of Mind.

In very general and crude terms, people on the right push a type of empathy called Parochial Empathy, which favors and prioritizes the dominant, in group, at the expense of other, out groups. If this type of empathy becomes too acute, and if it is not at least paired with a more general type of empathy, which treats all groups fairly, social cohesion breaks down. The more general type of empathy is one of the main drivers in the development and perseverance of large human societies and civilization.

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #38
In very general and crude terms, people on the right push a type of empathy called Parochial Empathy, which favors and prioritizes the dominant, in group, at the expense of other, out groups. If this type of empathy becomes too acute, and if it is not at least paired with a more general type of empathy, which treats all groups fairly, social cohesion breaks down. The more general type of empathy is one of the main drivers in the development and perseverance of large human societies and civilization.
The bulk of our typical population, excluding the extreme right, sense this without having the vocabulary to describe it so they stay shtum, it's beaten into the out groups starting in primary school.

What I completely fail to understand about the American condition is why so many of the obviously out subscribe to those who are on the in, the outs seem so oblivious that they all think they are in! :o
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #39
I must admit this issue is one close to my heart. I've suffered from depression and anxiety for years. Even with medication I still have good days and bad days. This year hasn't been good, but I keep going.

When I was really bad, I could barely get out of bed of a morning. It was totally debilitating. I'm glad I've left that behind (somewhat), but lots of days can be struggles.

I just hope Elijah and H can get back into their good places, as playing well will help them no end. And great things can still be done; Winston Churchill suffered from depressions and anxiety for much of his adult life. It didn't stop him from being one of Britain's best PM's.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #40
I must admit this issue is one close to my heart. I've suffered from depression and anxiety for years. Even with medication I still have good days and bad days. This year hasn't been good, but I keep going.

When I was really bad, I could barely get out of bed of a morning. It was totally debilitating. I'm glad I've left that behind (somewhat), but lots of days can be struggles.

I just hope Elijah and H can get back into their good places, as playing well will help them no end. And great things can still be done; Winston Churchill suffered from depressions and anxiety for much of his adult life. It didn't stop him from being one of Britain's best PM's.
I hear you Crash and wish you nothing but the best. What you described sounds exactly the same as a family member of mine, just keep chipping away step by step. We got your back if you need it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #41
I must admit this issue is one close to my heart. I've suffered from depression and anxiety for years. Even with medication I still have good days and bad days. This year hasn't been good, but I keep going.

When I was really bad, I could barely get out of bed of a morning. It was totally debilitating. I'm glad I've left that behind (somewhat), but lots of days can be struggles.

I just hope Elijah and H can get back into their good places, as playing well will help them no end. And great things can still be done; Winston Churchill suffered from depressions and anxiety for much of his adult life. It didn't stop him from being one of Britain's best PM's.

Courageous stuff to share this with us, Capt Crash. I hear you brother. I know the 'good days and bad days' roller-coaster too well, also.

And as GTC said so well, got your back.

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #42
I must admit this issue is one close to my heart. I've suffered from depression and anxiety for years. Even with medication I still have good days and bad days. This year hasn't been good, but I keep going.

When I was really bad, I could barely get out of bed of a morning. It was totally debilitating. I'm glad I've left that behind (somewhat), but lots of days can be struggles.

I just hope Elijah and H can get back into their good places, as playing well will help them no end. And great things can still be done; Winston Churchill suffered from depressions and anxiety for much of his adult life. It didn't stop him from being one of Britain's best PM's.
I hear you Crash and wish you nothing but the best. What you described sounds exactly the same as a family member of mine, just keep chipping away step by step. We got your back if you need it.
Thanks mate.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #43
There's credit where it's due and then there are plaudits.

I just read H's commentary over his recent, challenging, mental health journey. Bravo H. Beautifully articulated -
plenty of folks will relate, be encouraged and perhaps even, if suffering in silence, reach out.

And to the club, family, friends, sheesh, the whole tribe around H... bravo, ripper stuff.

Although many may not think so, it takes a truck load of courage to front up and ask for help around mental health challenges, and here comes a tired old cliche... especially us blokes.

So glad, H, you're in the place you are now.

Now you and the fellas get out and kick some Weagle clacker Saturday arvo.

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Mental Health/Illness Education, Empathy & Responsibility

Reply #44
There's credit where it's due and then there are plaudits.

I just read H's commentary over his recent, challenging, mental health journey. Bravo H. Beautifully articulated -
plenty of folks will relate, be encouraged and perhaps even, if suffering in silence, reach out.

And to the club, family, friends, sheesh, the whole tribe around H... bravo, ripper stuff.

Although many may not think so, it takes a truck load of courage to front up and ask for help around mental health challenges, and here comes a tired old cliche... especially us blokes.

So glad, H, you're in the place you are now.

Now you and the fellas get out and kick some Weagle clacker Saturday arvo.

Yes, I just watched his podcast; the facade/mask comment was interesting.  I hope blokes struggling with mental health issues watch the podcast and seek help.

The speculation about the source of Harry’s issues was way off the mark 🤔
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