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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #30 –
I know evans is no amazing player but he goal assisted from jack silvagni going end to end.  I see effort from him. 

Thats something. 

Geez I feel flat.  The dogs were there for the taking and we couldn't put them away.

The umps did help them in the end.  They got 3 free goals.  In an 8 point game that's game winning.

I'm not sure there is much else to say about the game. 

I watched ollie hollands gut run for a few mins.  Geeze he can cover the ground and works end to end.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Did Riley Beveridge watch the game???

BEST
Carlton: Kemp, De Koning, Silvagni, Weitering, Cerra, Curnow
Western Bulldogs: Liberatore, Davidson, Darcy, Harmes, Williams, Sanders

Curnow hardly got a touch after half time and Weitering toweled up Darcy!!
Darcy was the difference in the end. You're confusing him with naughton who popped up only when we were gassed.


I thought Williams was their most influential, I felt it was him that kept them in the game and it was his possessions that hurt us the most. Their skipper also played some sort of a game.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on


I watched ollie hollands gut run for a few mins.  Geeze he can cover the ground and works end to end.
I thought Hollands whilst he covered a lot of ground was ordinary in general.
We had 4 of the top 5 for distance covered but they weren't influential I felt their efforts didn't hurt the oppo.
Cottrell 15.2
Hollands 15
Doc 14.7
Davidson 14.6
Walsh 14.2
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #33 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Did Riley Beveridge watch the game???

BEST
Carlton: Kemp, De Koning, Silvagni, Weitering, Cerra, Curnow
Western Bulldogs: Liberatore, Davidson, Darcy, Harmes, Williams, Sanders

Curnow hardly got a touch after half time and Weitering toweled up Darcy!!
Obviously this guy has no idea at all. Darcy was slaughtered. He got a free he should never have got and did NOTHING.
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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #34 –
We get absolutely nothing from our small forwards, because the ball comes in so slowly that the F50 is jammed by the time it gets there, and they are not talented or fast enough to be much more than witches hats.  To compound things, there is very little forward pressure, so the opposition can get it back out to the wings with ease.

At every centre bounce, I look at the half-forward line of Motlop, Cottrell, Evans, Fogarty and the like - a set of midgets against serious running half-backs who chop us up game after game. 

We have little or no run out of the backline, and our only strategy is to dump-kick it to the wing and hope for a contest (and based on the midget half-forward line, that gives us little or no hope).  Or dump kick it into F50 for an uncontested opposition mark.

I have been saying since mid last year that we need to start playing the kids to try and get some enthusiasm going.  We keep putting the same try-hards out there every week, and we get surprised when they come up short yet again?  That is Einstein's definition of insanity.

There is no way forward with the team they keep putting out there ATM.   Play the kids now.

This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #35 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Did Riley Beveridge watch the game???

BEST
Carlton: Kemp, De Koning, Silvagni, Weitering, Cerra, Curnow
Western Bulldogs: Liberatore, Davidson, Darcy, Harmes, Williams, Sanders

Curnow hardly got a touch after half time and Weitering toweled up Darcy!!
Obviously this guy has no idea at all. Darcy was slaughtered. He got a free he should never have got and did NOTHING.
Weiters put on a FB master class against the young 209cm giant. Jones did similar at the other end.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #36 –
Quote from: tonyo – on

There is no way forward with the team they keep putting out there ATM.   Play the kids now.


Who? Moir? White? Maybe Binns as fwd? Durdin is injured.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #37 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: tonyo – on

There is no way forward with the team they keep putting out there ATM.  Play the kids now.


Who? Moir? White? Maybe Binns as fwd? Durdin is injured.


Moir, Two Camporeales, Billy WIlson, try Lemmey at HF.  Give White a shot in the F50, can't do any worse .....
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #38 –
We led for 108 minutes.  There are clearly issues, but chopping and head hunting will be unlikely to solve them, as our recent history clearly shows.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #39 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
We led for 108 minutes.  There are clearly issues, but chopping and head hunting will be unlikely to solve them, as our recent history clearly shows.
I agree Paul, but some of the selections are either concerning or are a "no choice". The fact that that the likes of Evans, McGovern, Haynes (despite over 500m gained last night), Acres and Docherty are playing given they are are so horribly out of form is an indictment on our list. We can call for "playing the kids" but yet again, the cupboard is seemingly bare. I am sure if Moir, Binns, Wilson, Lemming were options they would be selected. This is a list management issue. I'll lay London to a brick that if we did play these guys, some of the comments on here about them would be pretty bad. Trading  Owies and Kennedy now seems diabolically stupid given where we are at, I suspect both would have been extremely handy in the last 3 games.
Our players looked spent at 3/4 time so that's either a high performance team issue or the game plan is too taxing. Personally I think most of the other teams play a faster game with more running however that's just to my eye, I don't have data to back that claim obviously.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #40 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Did Riley Beveridge watch the game???

BEST
Carlton: Kemp, De Koning, Silvagni, Weitering, Cerra, Curnow
Western Bulldogs: Liberatore, Davidson, Darcy, Harmes, Williams, Sanders

Curnow hardly got a touch after half time and Weitering toweled up Darcy!!
Obviously this guy has no idea at all. Darcy was slaughtered. He got a free he should never have got and did NOTHING.
its funny how people see the game differently at times, but darcy had 17 possessions and 8 marks, and kicked 2 goals 1.  If that is a forward getting slaughtered, I wish some of ours would.   You can add 329 metres gained which shows he did more work up the ground and was capable of providing separation to our backline and unlock the game.  Davidson was influential but when the game was there to be won, darcy kicked goals. 

It's not rocket science to me.  He was one of the Doggies better players, he isn't doing a 3 2 1.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #41 –
Vossy needed to give the Terry Wallace 1996 spray after the game.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #42 –
I'm not one for using "players carrying injuries" as an excuse but Cripps didn't look right last night. He seemed to have some padding under his jumper on the RHS, could be a rib injury. Also his knees were heavily strapped at training during the week but had nothing on last night. In any case, when you cross the line you're fit to play.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #43 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on

Who? Moir? White? Maybe Binns as fwd? Durdin is injured.


Moir, Two Camporeales, Billy WIlson, try Lemmey at HF.  Give White a shot in the F50, can't do any worse .....

Can't do any worse? We've been in all 3 games thus far this season.

Worse was Pagan era when we'd be 6 goals down halfway through the first quarter. And 100 by the end.

Certainly can do worse.....a lot worse.
 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #44 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: tonyo – on

Moir, Two Camporeales, Billy WIlson, try Lemmey at HF.  Give White a shot in the F50, can't do any worse .....

Can't do any worse? We've been in all 3 games thus far this season.

Worse was Pagan era when we'd be 6 goals down halfway through the first quarter. And 100 by the end.

Certainly can do worse.....a lot worse.
Lost against two sides we should have beaten in a canter and our second halves suggest we are not fit.  Time to mix things up.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?