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Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #60
Durdin is a much better footballer than we are giving him credit for.  His only issue is that he's short.  Has wheels, generally uses it well, works up and down the ground and likes a goal.  We will be a better outfit with him in the team. 

As long as we understand that he is not a creative small forward and is a strongly defensively talented kid. Relying on him to hit the scoreboard regularly would be a folly. Totally agree that he would be a better option that Fog/Motlop due to his speed over the grass... gets to opponents and contests much quicker than those two which can only be a big plus.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #61
Same thing can be said for the seniors - a club wide issue

Nailed by the Professory.

Been a club wide issue for years and still is - reliance on our top end talent. Still playing as a bunch of individuals, with, fortunately, some of them very talented.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #62
Durdin tackles well and has good speed but can't get enough of the ball or kick goals.

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #63

What they do with Harry will be interesting. He looked thin, which has me thinking that whatever is troubling him has also had a physical effect. It took him a while to crack a smile when his team-mates got around him after that first goal. But he seemed to work into the game in that third quarter.
How he pulls up after the game and whether he found it a positive experience will probably tell a story...but we wont know that.

It's a toss-up. Do we give him another week or two at this level until he starts to dominate....or is the West Coast the ideal team to reintroduce him to the seniors.


Also noticed that H seemed a little thinner. Now this is only speculation... perhaps if he had an illness as first offered up by the club - it knocked him about, maybe a gastro thing and that'll sure result in sudden weight loss.
Or... maybe... if it was an anxiety thing, this can really strip weight off you - fast. I speak from experience, when my PTSD flares up, panic/anxiety goes through the roof and the weight peels off. Not a pleasant way to lose weight. But my guess is that the fact he took the field means he's on top of, or getting on top of the ailment. I'd play him against the Weagles.

Yep
I'm not sure we've touched on it in the mental health thread but at times of high stress many of us lose our appetite. As well as the mental aspect there is usually a physical toll.
Unless we got Harry on the scales we don't know for sure, but enough people have commented on it to suggest that he has lost some weight.

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #64
Hudson O'Keefe looked okay with his ruck work in the second half.   In the seniors, we are very much relying on Tom DeKonning staying on the park. it might be a smart move to give Hudson some game time fairly soon..

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ps Yes we have Pittonet, but not the smartest footballer

Totally agree. I was actually pleasantly surprised by H.O'K. He was monstered early by the Sharks huge ruckman, who looks like he could carry a half dozen telegraph poles on his shoulder!

Once H.O'K worked out how to play (using smarts - realising he'd never out-muscle this bloke) the Hulk, he really did rise to the occasion and give us plenty of reason for optimism in regards to a valid ruck option.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #65
O'Keefe doesn't do enough around the ground imo which is what separates the ruckman these days.
Handy tap ruck is HOK but you need a 20 plus possession player in the modern game .Crossley is a throw back to Mick Nolan....

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #66
O'Keefe doesn't do enough around the ground imo which is what separates the ruckman these days.
Handy tap ruck is HOK but you need a 20 plus possession player in the modern game .Crossley is a throw back to Mick Nolan....

Yep, agree, he needs to add more strings to his bow. He's raw but you can see that there's something there to work with.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #67

What they do with Harry will be interesting. He looked thin, which has me thinking that whatever is troubling him has also had a physical effect. It took him a while to crack a smile when his team-mates got around him after that first goal. But he seemed to work into the game in that third quarter.
How he pulls up after the game and whether he found it a positive experience will probably tell a story...but we wont know that.

It's a toss-up. Do we give him another week or two at this level until he starts to dominate....or is the West Coast the ideal team to reintroduce him to the seniors.


Also noticed that H seemed a little thinner. Now this is only speculation... perhaps if he had an illness as first offered up by the club - it knocked him about, maybe a gastro thing and that'll sure result in sudden weight loss.
Or... maybe... if it was an anxiety thing, this can really strip weight off you - fast. I speak from experience, when my PTSD flares up, panic/anxiety goes through the roof and the weight peels off. Not a pleasant way to lose weight. But my guess is that the fact he took the field means he's on top of, or getting on top of the ailment. I'd play him against the Weagles.
Indeed, there are a lot better ways of losing weight.

I think H may be a week or two away yet, but the signs were promising. But he has definitely changed his body shape.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #68


Also noticed that H seemed a little thinner. Now this is only speculation... perhaps if he had an illness as first offered up by the club - it knocked him about, maybe a gastro thing and that'll sure result in sudden weight loss.
Or... maybe... if it was an anxiety thing, this can really strip weight off you - fast. I speak from experience, when my PTSD flares up, panic/anxiety goes through the roof and the weight peels off. Not a pleasant way to lose weight. But my guess is that the fact he took the field means he's on top of, or getting on top of the ailment. I'd play him against the Weagles.
Indeed, there are a lot better ways of losing weight.

I think H may be a week or two away yet, but the signs were promising. But he has definitely changed his body shape.
Harry looked medicated and a bit away at times, needs another week or two imo.

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #69
Durdins last game in the seniors in '24 was encouraging, but expecting him to kick more than about a goal a game is pushing it.  But at least he gets defenders looking around and gets to a lot of contests....but definitely want him in the twos for another week I reckon.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #70
Id take Durdin over Fogarty right now.

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #71
Why do these blokes have another break before their next game?  How can they be expected to deliver if there is zero continuity?  The schedule is mad, hasn't benefitted out twos for years.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #72
Why do these blokes have another break before their next game?  How can they be expected to deliver if there is zero continuity?  The schedule is mad, hasn't benefitted out twos for years.
That aint the reason why our twos are bad.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #73
Why do these blokes have another break before their next game?  How can they be expected to deliver if there is zero continuity?  The schedule is mad, hasn't benefitted out twos for years.
That aint the reason why our twos are bad.
No, it isn't, but it certainly isn't helping. We've put up with this crap for the last 3 seasons and it hasn't helped us at all. We really need some continuity in our play, especially the youngsters.

And our 2's are extraordinarily young. We have no real experience in the line-up, where our 2 captains are among the oldest players on our list. We miss Hayes, who not only gets it 30 times a game, but is an older head. We just don't have any older heads.
Live Long and Prosper!

 

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 3: Carlton vs Southport at Ikon Park

Reply #74
@crashlander, why didn’t Hayes play on Saturday ?
He was emergency I think…
Let’s go BIG !