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Reply #45 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Lods – on
There are probably three aspects to the problem...and yes, it is to a large extent on the coaches, but also the players...and once again the available talent.

The first one is structure...our forward line doesn't possess it at present because our key strengths in Curnow and McKay aren't there or down on form.

The second one is the fact that our small forwards are either defensive. or lacking in ability to be damaging on the scoreboard.

And the third one is our entry into the forward line, and that's a two part issue...the stagnancy you mention and the accuracy of our mids in terms of spotting up and hitting the forwards.

We often find our forwards making good position only to be ignored or missed.

All valid points Lods. Surely the fwd group (ie all the blokes who were a chance to be in the fwd line) has just come off a pre-season working on positioning, structures, patterns, set plays, connection with team mates up the ground. Surely the coach of the fwds has some clue about the above and has worked on it with them?

You would hope the coaches would be on top of it..
I have a bit of an issue with the "one soldier out, one soldier in" philosoph of some coaches, because every player brings different strengths and weaknesses to the different lines.
Connection and structure depend a  lot on consistency of personnel.
It'd be interesting to have a look at how many players we've rotated through the forward line in the first four weeks.
 

Re: Well said

Reply #46 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on


Too many footy shows at the moment, all need to make noise.   Make an opinion based on a couple of clips of vision and then state it as fact.  then the other shows pick up the theme then run with it.   they all think they are US opinion shows now (colin cowherd, steven a smith   etc)

A few on this thread have made great points saying this.  none of the "experts" watch carlton as closely as we do.  And, yes, some of them have access to "data" - but we know how misleading this can be  
I dont necessarily agree with some of the above Mil. I'll pose to you that many of "us" watch the Carlton with the navy blue goggles on. I reckon the good analysts watch all teams without biased, you can tell who these one are. I happened to be with the brother of one the TV analysts last week actually who shared with me the power of work his brother does watching every game pouring over the stats and tactics to arrive at what is presented.

yeah, fair point.  i am sure there are a few analysts that do the work (always thought king and montanga were pretty good).  but there a number (especially the journos, dressed up as experts), that just parrot what others say and present it as facts\

then there are the tv heads that stand in front of clips that someone else has put together, and pretend that a 10sec clip explains a whole 120min game...

some are good, but there are just too many and all feel the need to have a strong opinion

Re: Well said

Reply #47 –
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I dont necessarily agree with some of the above Mil. I'll pose to you that many of "us" watch the Carlton with the navy blue goggles on. I reckon the good analysts watch all teams without biased, you can tell who these one are. I happened to be with the brother of one the TV analysts last week actually who shared with me the power of work his brother does watching every game pouring over the stats and tactics to arrive at what is presented.

yeah, fair point.  i am sure there are a few analysts that do the work (always thought king and montanga were pretty good).  but there a number (especially the journos, dressed up as experts), that just parrot what others say and present it as facts\

then there are the tv heads that stand in front of clips that someone else has put together, and pretend that a 10sec clip explains a whole 120min game...

some are good, but there are just too many and all feel the need to have a strong opinion

Yep, Cranium. But it's the nature of the beast, with so many footy shows there must be heaps of fluff and padding... and throwing in some controversial stuff to sucker us in; get them thar clicks happening.

Personally, I limit the shows I watch to the opinions of those who've played or coached the game, well. Except for G Whateley, who is a serious analyst of our game with the articulation to make his point, sharply and clearly. I find the progs with more 'in depth' analysis preferable to those that are more entertainment based.

Like you I'm very interested in the insights/perspectives from King and Montagna... they look below the fluff and seek to explain 'why.' I like that. And they're objective. I like that, too. I also like Browny - keeps it simple; carves the issue to the bone. Gets right to it.
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Re: Well said

Reply #48 –
The couch crew are always insightful and Rewaldt is growing on me.
360 is better without Robbo, what’s the story with him going ?

I rarely get time to watch any others.
Let’s go BIG !