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Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #60
The bump/knock in Harry, will that be looked at? Head high and elected to go the man while Harry was going towards the ball

A player who elects to bump and causes a head clash gets a holiday.

Nope. Nothing to see during H incident. Not according to MR at least. Go figure.

Gross, Motlop, Baker all fined for other incidents 🙄
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Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #61
They clashed heads.  Bump or no bump, if he goes for that the MRO have rocks in their head.  Its the out incidental contact of every seen.  The only difference is the other bloke got up.

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Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #62
I have managed to watch the first quarter thus far (working all weekend didn't help my cause) and to be brutally honest, was completely underwhelmed.

There was no urgency & there certainly was no desire to put the Eagles to the sword either. It was all just more of what we have seen so far in 2025 but against better credentialld teams, it fell really short.

Hopefully I can get some more time this week to watch the rest of the match and end up with a more positive feel about it.

 
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #63
I have managed to watch the first quarter thus far (working all weekend didn't help my cause) and to be brutally honest, was completely underwhelmed.

There was no urgency & there certainly was no desire to put the Eagles to the sword either. It was all just more of what we have seen so far in 2025 but against better credentialld teams, it fell really short.

Hopefully I can get some more time this week to watch the rest of the match and end up with a more positive feel about it.

 
I think there was a concerted effort to finish the game strong and not spend the petrol tickets early.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

 

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #64
Agree with others about the lack of pressure. Somewhat like a PS hitout, including the high temperature.

It didn't particularly test our 2nd half issues. Whatever they are. Neither our pattern of folding under pressure. Next week will give a better read.

Hopefully, we gain maximum bang for our confidence issues. A couple of players are finally finding some form and Durdin and the newbies went ok.

What remains a major issue IMO is goalkicking and poor decision-making near goal. Stop with the cute stuff and take the shot already. We also have work to do on communication. Getting tackled unawares by a no pressure side is very poor.

In all, not a great spectacle. We did enough and managed the conditions ok. I'm still unconvinced that we're going anywhere this year. Certainly hope I'm wrong as our window is closing and we're falling behind several teams development wise.

Enjoy the moment and build momentum quick smart and the tide can change. Go Blues.

Good stuff, LN. And great pick-up - which I highlighted. I recall when Mots was tackled as he was streaming toward goal early in the game and he was caught, the first thing I thought was 'where's the talk!' Where were his team mates warning him that he was 'hot?' Or did he ignore them?
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #65
Good stuff, LN. And great pick-up - which I highlighted. I recall when Mots was tackled as he was streaming toward goal early in the game and he was caught, the first thing I thought was 'where's the talk!' Where were his team mates warning him that he was 'hot?' Or did he ignore them?

Young Jesse seems to take on the defenders like that at least once per game.  He does have the strength, acceleration and agility to get around a defender but trying to run through two defenders isn't a high percentage play.

I think there are times when all of Jesse's senses are focused on the big sticks and defenders - or teammates in the clear - become irrelevant. 
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #66
I notice that very few players, only Crippa actually, got interviews that made it to the club's website after the Weagles game. I suspect that Weiters got into a bit of strife over his 'not mentally strong' enough comments after our last loss. Voss was asked about Weiters' comment in his post game chat and was caught off guard somewhat and deferred to him focussing more on 'behaviours.' Well where do you think 'behaviours' come from, Vossy... yep, what's going on between the lugholes. Perhaps the harsh reality (and accuracy) of what Weiters said hit home, it aint a secret! And it sure aint anything you can keep 'in-house.'

Though now that I've pointed this out, a plethora of comments from players will probably now hit the website... heavily scripted and edited!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #67
I notice that very few players, only Crippa actually, got interviews that made it to the club's website after the Weagles game. I suspect that Weiters got into a bit of strife over his 'not mentally strong' enough comments after our last loss. Voss was asked about Weiters' comment in his post game chat and was caught off guard somewhat and deferred to him focussing more on 'behaviours.' Well where do you think 'behaviours' come from, Vossy... yep, what's going on between the lugholes. Perhaps the harsh reality (and accuracy) of what Weiters said hit home, it aint a secret! And it sure aint anything you can keep 'in-house.'

Though now that I've pointed this out, a plethora of comments from players will probably now hit the website... heavily scripted and edited!
If Weiters got in trouble over his comments the club is more forked than I thought.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #68
I notice that very few players, only Crippa actually, got interviews that made it to the club's website after the Weagles game. I suspect that Weiters got into a bit of strife over his 'not mentally strong' enough comments after our last loss. Voss was asked about Weiters' comment in his post game chat and was caught off guard somewhat and deferred to him focussing more on 'behaviours.' Well where do you think 'behaviours' come from, Vossy... yep, what's going on between the lugholes. Perhaps the harsh reality (and accuracy) of what Weiters said hit home, it aint a secret! And it sure aint anything you can keep 'in-house.'

Though now that I've pointed this out, a plethora of comments from players will probably now hit the website... heavily scripted and edited!

Corey Durdin and Sam Walsh were interviewed after the game and both interviews were immediately posted on the club's Facebook page.  Worpa's is more of a quick comment but Durds' full interview was immediately posted to the club website.

You don't think that Weiters and Vossy got their heads together before Weiters' interview?  I thought that his comments were calculated to complement Vossy's interview.

Update:

George Hewett did an interview with the Ch7 crew on the Sunday and Adam Saad was also interviewed about his 200th game … and I should offer my congratulations for that achievement 👏
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #69
. They need to be willing to keep at it against good sides when things aren't going well. I think we get open up at the back because the last player in the line is getting drawn to the play too early. Bryce Gibbs was excellent at holding his position whereas too many players get sucked into the contest when they see the ball.

Jeff White does some good analysis, online, mainly around centre square set ups.   he is big on a couple of blokes holding their position, while 1 bloke actually goes in for the footy.   as you said, many cant help themselves, and just naturally go in for the footy

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #70
They clashed heads.  Bump or no bump, if he goes for that the MRO have rocks in their head.  Its the out incidental contact of every seen.  The only difference is the other bloke got up.

They have rocks in their head.....or at least have in the past.
Was it Maxwell who got done for it originally in Perth all those years ago.
Of course there was Plowman debacle.

Incidental contact when a player elects to bump is not a defence.
Plowman got a fist on the ball at the time of contact but 'chose to bump' and because he got up, was penalised.

At the time the commentators said they didn't think the eagles player was even aware that harry was there and didn't square up for a bump. That is what saves him.

2 obvlivious players run into eachother.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #71


A player who elects to bump and causes a head clash gets a holiday.

Nope. Nothing to see during H incident. Not according to MR at least. Go figure.

Gross, Motlop, Baker all fined for other incidents 🙄

This is where the AFL and MRO lose all credibility.

Harry was intent on the player with the ball and was intending to tackle or put him under pressure.  He’s not aware of Gross.

Gross gets set for a hip and shoulder and crunches an unsuspecting Harry.  There’s a head clash, Harry is out of the game and out of our next game as a minimum.  It’s also his fourth concussion in five seasons.

The ball carrier was Harry’s object.  Gross wasn’t going for the ball and elected to bump. That resulted in a head clash and a concussion.  According to the AFL’s guidelines, Gross has to cop at least one week’s suspension.  I guess the head isn’t sacrosanct this week 🙄

Comparison with the Plowman-O’Meara head clash are irrelevant; Plowman was intent on making a contest for the ball.  Gross was intent on stopping Harry tackling his teammate.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #72
This is where the AFL and MRO lose all credibility.
Surely you're not asserting different rules for different clubs or players!

I suppose in the meantime Kysaiah Pickett is still permitted to continually and accidentally jump his shoulder into Cripps head around stoppages.

"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #73
This is where the AFL and MRO lose all credibility.
Surely you're not asserting different rules for different clubs or players!

I suppose in the meantime Kysaiah Pickett is still permitted to continually and accidentally jump his shoulder into Cripps to the head around stoppages.

Not really LP; I don’t think the player or club enters into whatever thought processes go on in Christian’s head.

We can be sure that the head is sacrosanct … except for when it’s not 🙄
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #74
If Pickett tries that again it should involve a lights out response
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