AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG April 17, 2025, 08:55:05 pm Sunday 27 Apr at 15:20 at the MCG. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #1 – April 18, 2025, 07:54:44 pm This is the real one. Win this and we are back in town. Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #2 – April 18, 2025, 07:59:40 pm Time to find out where we sit on the Fraud spectrum. Nothing worse than flat track bullies.Happy the team is finding form but really - WCE and NM are hapless. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #3 – April 18, 2025, 08:38:51 pm Geelong will be a taller order than WC or NM, but I'm not sure a loss to them is an indication of fakery. We are still wobbly, and could not even beat Richmond, so I think a little perspective is in order. Geelong will be strong favorites, and rightly so. I'm not sure you can just flick a switch and start beating the top teams, as much as we would like to. Maybe baby steps for now. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #4 – April 18, 2025, 09:53:08 pm Quote from: pinot – on April 18, 2025, 07:59:40 pmTime to find out where we sit on the Fraud spectrum. Nothing worse than flat track bullies.Happy the team is finding form but really - WCE and NM are hapless.We are far from flat track bullies, we lost against Richmonds Auskick side and lost against the Bontless Bulldogs who we match up well on. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #5 – April 19, 2025, 10:13:10 am Quote from: PaulP – on April 18, 2025, 08:38:51 pmGeelong will be a taller order than WC or NM, but I'm not sure a loss to them is an indication of fakery. We are still wobbly, and could not even beat Richmond, so I think a little perspective is in order. Geelong will be strong favorites, and rightly so. I'm not sure you can just flick a switch and start beating the top teams, as much as we would like to. Maybe baby steps for now. Baby steps? We are 11 years into a rebuild! Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #6 – April 19, 2025, 10:20:51 am Quote from: shawny – on April 19, 2025, 10:13:10 amBaby steps? We are 11 years into a rebuild! The current regime has no say in what came before. Every time there's a change of coach, significant list turnover etc., the club has to, by simple logic, go backwards and in some cases, back to square one. "The Club" is an abstract entity that exists in the minds of supporters, but the club, in terms of performing on field, is nothing more than a collection of individuals at a given period of time The Club is a different club now than it was 10 years ago. IMO, you should not be counting back to the Teague, Malthouse, Bolton etc eras, your count should start with Voss. I know you won't agree. This may be cold comfort / irrelevant / total BS to some, but it's the truth Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #7 – April 19, 2025, 10:23:16 am Beaten the bottom dwellers in North and WC only in the last 10 months! Really dont know where we sit so interested to the outcome of this game. Get another 3 days rest on them which should freshen us right up. Who knows. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #8 – April 19, 2025, 10:28:54 am Quote from: PaulP – on April 19, 2025, 10:20:51 amQuote from: shawny – on April 19, 2025, 10:13:10 amBaby steps? We are 11 years into a rebuild! The current regime has no say in what came before. Every time there's a change of coach, significant list turnover etc., the club has to, by simple logic, go backwards and in some cases, back to square one. "The Club" is an abstract entity that exists in the minds of supporters, but the club, in terms of performing on field, is nothing more than a collection of individuals at a given period of time The Club is a different club now than it was 10 years ago. IMO, you should not be counting back to the Teague, Malthouse, Bolton etc eras, your count should start with Voss. I know you won't agree. This may be cold comfort / irrelevant / total BS to some, but it's the truthYour right i don't agree. Its a cop out to say forget the past and the era starts with a change of coach. Thats a losers mentality. We change coaches every second year! I follow the club and this list has been building for the past decade. Changing a coach doesn't reset the clock as far as im concerned. So why is everyone so critical of WC there coach is a newbie ? Does that mean Swans GF smashing with there current list are all forgotten now? Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #9 – April 19, 2025, 10:34:21 am Quote from: shawny – on April 19, 2025, 10:28:54 amYour right i don't agree. Its a cop out to say forget the past and the era starts with a change of coach. Thats a losers mentality. We change coaches every second year! I follow the club and this list has been building for the past decade. Changing a coach doesn't reset the clock as far as im concerned. So why is everyone so critical of WC there coach is a newbie ? Does that mean Swans GF smashing with there current list are all forgotten now?Climbing out of the fug we've inhabited for 20 years needs a lot of things to go right. Maintaining an established winning culture is easier than recreating one from scratch. For this reason, the Swans, Cats, Hawks etc can manage transitions better than clubs like ours. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #10 – April 19, 2025, 11:16:39 am Even the least objective supporter should be able to see that our rebuild started with the weitering draft. Thats at worst 9 years ago, but given where we were coming from and the lack of success at the draft table, we are likely doing mini rebuild 3.0 since then now. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #11 – April 19, 2025, 05:36:20 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on April 19, 2025, 11:16:39 amEven the least objective supporter should be able to see that our rebuild started with the weitering draft. Thats at worst 9 years ago, but given where we were coming from and the lack of success at the draft table, we are likely doing mini rebuild 3.0 since then now.Correct.Sos started the rebuild and nailed our spine jn 1 draft.We've been trying to flesh out the rest of it so long, we're getting towards the end of the spines careers. Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #12 – April 20, 2025, 08:24:11 am The last two weeks we have been at a holiday camp, I don't count them as anything more than training drills even though I did have a genuine sense of concern for the NM match) This week we are back in the saltmine playing the Cats, another loss (even a hard fought loss) will not be considered acceptable nor tolerated. They have to do a hell of a lot to rekindle my faith & belief, I can't buy into any short-term sugar-fix, I want long-term results & consistency Dropping this game will just show once again that we are in fact, frauds !! Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #13 – April 20, 2025, 09:26:47 am Ah, yes, the Pussycats... a terrific litmus test for any top 8 (or 4!) aspirant.Our leadership, discipline and mental resolve will be tested. A real 'above the shoulders' test. Unlike the previous 2 sides, who may have brought real heat for a few minutes here and there, this mob will bring bona fide heat persistently and consistently. And any lapses on our part (eg 2nd qtr v Kangabies), will be severely dealt with.Optimistic? Nuh.Hopeful? You bet. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG Reply #14 – April 20, 2025, 09:55:23 am Quote from: LordLucifer – on April 20, 2025, 08:24:25 amThe last two weeks we have been at a holiday camp, I don't count them as anything more than training drills even though I did have a genuine sense of concern for the NM match. This week we are back in the saltmine playing the Cats, another loss (even a hard fought loss) will not be considered acceptable nor tolerated. They have to do a hell of a lot to rekindle my faith & belief, I can't buy into any short-term sugar-fix, I want long-term results & consistency Dropping this game will just show once again that we are in fact, frauds !! Yep, the last two games mean zero if we cant replicate that level of effort, tackling and pressure against the good sides (contenders). Let's hope Haw and Geel belt the living suitcases out of each other tomorrow. The one plus is that this game is at the G., however I fear their speed and firepower will trouble us. I heard a whisper Weitering's injury is a little more serious than what is thought. Quote Selected 1 Likes