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Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #30 –
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On a side note, did anyone make sense of the Geelong jumper.  Looked like every player had slid across the paint on the ground.

https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/1757428/anzac-day-guernsey

"A moment that shaped the national identities of both Australia and New Zealand, Geelong's ANZAC guernsey pays tribute to the bravery, resilience and sacrifice of the ANZACs.

The guernsey features an illustrative representation of the Gallipoli landscape and its four natural elements — the sky, the hills, the beach and the water — which have all been thoughtfully intertwined between the traditional navy hoops, creating a powerful visual story of place and remembrance."
I did assume there would be a good ANZAC story behind it (a little too lazy to look it up). Still, graphically,  I don't think it was a winner,just looked like a blue smudge to me.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #31 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: deepbluesee – on
On a side note, did anyone make sense of the Geelong jumper.  Looked like every player had slid across the paint on the ground.

https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/1757428/anzac-day-guernsey

"A moment that shaped the national identities of both Australia and New Zealand, Geelong's ANZAC guernsey pays tribute to the bravery, resilience and sacrifice of the ANZACs.

The guernsey features an illustrative representation of the Gallipoli landscape and its four natural elements — the sky, the hills, the beach and the water — which have all been thoughtfully intertwined between the traditional navy hoops, creating a powerful visual story of place and remembrance."
I'm sure it was supposed to mean something, but from where I was sitting, it didn't say much.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #32 –
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https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/1757428/anzac-day-guernsey

"A moment that shaped the national identities of both Australia and New Zealand, Geelong's ANZAC guernsey pays tribute to the bravery, resilience and sacrifice of the ANZACs.

The guernsey features an illustrative representation of the Gallipoli landscape and its four natural elements — the sky, the hills, the beach and the water — which have all been thoughtfully intertwined between the traditional navy hoops, creating a powerful visual story of place and remembrance."
I'm sure it was supposed to mean something, but from where I was sitting, it didn't say much.
Dear wife said 'art smock' 😄

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #33 –
Quote from: deepbluesee – on
I did assume there would be a good ANZAC story behind it (a little too lazy to look it up). Still, graphically,  I don't think it was a winner,just looked like a blue smudge to me.

I suspect up close it looks quite good, but as you say, it didn’t quite work at a distance.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #34 –
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good to see Nick Haynes do so well, his intercept game was telling.

Even looked more like a footballer with the new hairstyle.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #35 –
Voting this week is going to be interesting, as a lot of guys really stood up under pressure today:
Sam Walsh's first half was brilliant. He tired somewhat, but still ended with 30 possessions. 2 tackles, 2 clearances, clearly BOG in the first half.
Patrick Cripps: what a game he played! 29 possessions, 9 tackles and 8 clearances. And the times he got the ball and held it in under pressure.
H: 19 disposals and 12 marks to go with his 3 goals. He really was more than just good, he took great marks when it mattered.
Tom: won his ruck duel, 20 possessions, 39 taps, 5 clearances and 1 goal. Apart from a couple of awful kicks, he had a pretty good day.
Nick Haynes: 13 marks, 8 of those interceptions! A totally different player to the disaster who lost us Rd 1. He had a good matchup and he really dominated.
Mitch McGovern: 20 disposals and 7 marks, tackles at the right time, interceptions and spoils: one of his best ever games.
Ollie Hollands and Elijah Hollands: they also had days to remember.

I could go on. It is going to be very difficult to give votes, as we had winners everywhere.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #36 –
Apart from his towering mark and goal, I was very impressed with the number of intense pressure acts from Durdin, which possibly didn't trouble the statistician.

Ollie Hollands running ability was on a different level today; the number of times he tracked up and (deep) back was eye catching and very telling - even his disposal was better than sometimes is the case.

McGovern seemed to miss out on his obligatory floating turnover but Carroll had some shocking kicks for a change.
 

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #37 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Apart from his towering mark and goal, I was very impressed with the number of intense pressure acts from Durdin, which possibly didn't trouble the statistician.

Ollie Hollands running ability was on a different level today; the number of times he tracked up and (deep) back was eye catching and very telling - even his disposal was better than sometimes is the case.

McGovern seemed to miss out on his obligatory floating turnover but Carroll had some shocking kicks for a change.
I just had a look at the stats, Haynes was credited with 3 TOs, 3 clangers and a DE of 70%. Thats not what I saw live at the ground. I may need to watch the replay, I may also need to learn what the definition is for a TO and and Clanger.
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2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #38 –
Haynes was very good today.

Not the first time I'll eat humble pie, but credit where it's due, I thought he was a dud pickup and he proved me wrong today.

Particularly his 3rd quarter.  He was huge.

@Gointocarlton i think a turnover and clanger can sometimes be the same stat. 

You'll turn it over and make a clanger and notch up one in each.  A clanger can also be an out on the full, or a short target missed.  A turnover results in the opposition getting the ball, so it's possible he turned it over 3 times short.
"everything you know is wrong"

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Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #39 –
I just read that Harry had facial fractures after that hit.  Took a lot of guts to come out and play like that today.  Still staggered Gross didn't cop a holiday for it.
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Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #40 –
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I just read that Harry had facial fractures after that hit.  Took a lot of guts to come out and play like that today.  Still staggered Gross didn't cop a holiday for it.
Yep.  Very good and seems to have turned his mentality around.  Best game H has played for some time, so wouldn't surprise me if his mental health issues have dogged him since 2023.

Re Gross. I can't agree.  Yes he went the bump, but their heads collided by accident.  It wasn't a deliberate high hit, and was more freak occurrence than anything.  If he got suspended for that, its an outcome based suspension not an action based one.  It could happen 100 more times, and Harry wouldn't get hit like that again. 

Dangerfield was more likely to cause issue with his approach to finding off with his forearm to saad, and even he shouldn't get suspended for that (should be a free kick, but thats to deter the action).

Honestly I saw it as a heads coming together and gross could easily have come off second best and this is where by avoiding the bumping and bracing players are not protecting themselves properly.  Harry has a foot and probably 10 kgs on his west coast counterpart and absolutely should have knocked him into next week by bracing but this is the game today.

I saw a few times where we play too nice.  Marking contest.  Punch the footy or punch the back of your opponents hand (really hard) to ensure their fingers start to hurt.  Same with ducking into a tackle.  You get them high, really get them high.  Not dirty, don't knock them out but give the head a good rub so they might actually feel it. 

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #41 –
Looks like the players see it a little differently to some of us. :D

On a reel on the Carlton Facebook page the players were asked to give a shout out to a player.

Haynes got the most and Fogarty also picked up a couple (for the role he played ;)

Others mentioned were Harry, Hewett, Gov, Jack, Cera and Durdin

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCarltonFC/reels/

It's the reel with Tom holding the mic

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #42 –
Fantastic win and absolutely credit to Haynes and McG today, I’ve been a huge critic but they were both fantastic today.

Think Ollie works so hard and brilliant to see repeat efforts from all other players throughout the game.  Nice to see H do well and happy for Durds for doing well.

Yes Carroll had a few shockers but thought he, White and Lord were quite good and settled when needed at their age and experience level:

Huge day and what a goal by George, just love him.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #43 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Voting this week is going to be interesting, as a lot of guys really stood up under pressure today:
Sam Walsh's first half was brilliant. He tired somewhat, but still ended with 30 possessions. 2 tackles, 2 clearances, clearly BOG in the first half.
Patrick Cripps: what a game he played! 29 possessions, 9 tackles and 8 clearances. And the times he got the ball and held it in under pressure.
H: 19 disposals and 12 marks to go with his 3 goals. He really was more than just good, he took great marks when it mattered.
Tom: won his ruck duel, 20 possessions, 39 taps, 5 clearances and 1 goal. Apart from a couple of awful kicks, he had a pretty good day.
Nick Haynes: 13 marks, 8 of those interceptions! A totally different player to the disaster who lost us Rd 1. He had a good matchup and he really dominated.
Mitch McGovern: 20 disposals and 7 marks, tackles at the right time, interceptions and spoils: one of his best ever games.
Ollie Hollands and Elijah Hollands: they also had days to remember.

I could go on. It is going to be very difficult to give votes, as we had winners everywhere.
A strange game indeed to vote on. For example someone like Motlop who didn't trouble the statisticians seemed to be everywhere and impacting (to my eye at least). I thought Walsh was clearly the best player on the the ground all day, Cripps didn't stand out as much to me.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 7 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #44 –
One positive to whats been a pretty disappointing season so far is our midfield seems more balanced and less reliant on Cripps which is a great thing.

Despite having to let Kennedy go we finally have depth now and we are getting an even spread. I would say Cripps would be behind Hewitt, Cerra and even probably Walsh in the B&F to this point which is a massive positive.

Jack has found his home in defence and looks like a bloke who loves the challenge to play on the games best and is unfazed 

Still think Charlie's output doesn't match his reputation. Everyone in the media go so over the top every goal he kicks mark he takes due to his energy and just the way he is exciting to watch but Harry on the other hand is a hard honest worker who is a bit unvalued IMO and his overall game is vital to us beating the best teams - He takes big late game team settling contested marks which is massive when the pressure is on, works s hard late up the ground. Charlie gets the most attention and as a result frees up others but think we underestimate Harrys importance when fit in big moments.