Skip to main content ↑ ↓
Topic: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda (Read 10772 times) previous topic - next topic
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Friday 9th May at 19:40 at the MCG against the 'Aints.
At least it isn't a Thursday night: I can't realistically get to them.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #1 –
Well, St Kilda won by 10 goals and we lost by 10 goals, so it is going to be interesting viewing on Friday night.
I don't think we've won a night game this year as yet.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #2 –
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month.
So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall.
Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale.
Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?

Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.

It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #3 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month.
So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall.
Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale.
Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?

Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.

It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.
Might  be as simple as as SOS for Young. Coll resting De Goey, Pendlebury, Mihocek and Maynard lol. Imagine what would happen to us if we rested Cripps, Hewett, Saad and Harry or Charlie. We'd get smashed by 120 points.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #4 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month.
So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall.
Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale.
Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?

Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.

It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.

Silvagni has to play. A broken hand can be carried. Tape it into a club if he needs to.

I haven't seen how the 2's have gone recently, but Lucas Campo is who i'd use to replace Cottrell unless his form has been terrible.

Not sure why Boyd is on the naughty list, but i'd bring him in for Docherty or Cowan and use the other as sub.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #5 –
I’d keep Moo in the team, he’s got it, he just needs some continuity
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #6 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: crashlander – on
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month.
So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall.
Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale.
Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?

Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.

It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.

Silvagni has to play. A broken hand can be carried. Tape it into a club if he needs to.

I haven't seen how the 2's have gone recently, but Lucas Campo is who i'd use to replace Cottrell unless his form has been terrible.

Not sure why Boyd is on the naughty list, but i'd bring him in for Docherty or Cowan and use the other as sub.

Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben.
They're works in progress.
I reckon we should give Binns another crack.
I wouldn't be surprised if Evans got a run. He was OK in the VFL.

Boyd seems to be out of favour, so he must be doing something wrong in an area that he's been asked to work on.
Will they go with two rucks?
Pittonet is match ready. O'Keefe is putting himself forward for selection and can kick a goal.

Hopefully Silvagni is good to go.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben.
They're works in progress.
I reckon we should give Binns another crack.
I wouldn't be surprised if Evans got a run. He was OK in the VFL.

Boyd seems to be out of favour, so he must be doing something wrong in an area that he's been asked to work on.
Will they go with two rucks?
Pittonet is match ready. O'Keefe is putting himself forward for selection and can kick a goal.

Hopefully Silvagni is good to go.

Boyd's disposal by foot has been as bad as some of the worst kicks by Doc and McGovern  ::)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #8 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: Lods – on
Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben.
They're works in progress.
I reckon we should give Binns another crack.
I wouldn't be surprised if Evans got a run. He was OK in the VFL.

Boyd seems to be out of favour, so he must be doing something wrong in an area that he's been asked to work on.
Will they go with two rucks?
Pittonet is match ready. O'Keefe is putting himself forward for selection and can kick a goal.

Hopefully Silvagni is good to go.

Boyd's disposal by foot has been as bad as some of the worst kicks by Doc and McGovern  ::)
Ill be honest, I have never seen this elite kicking from Boyd that everyone bangs on about. I have never rated him and never will, VFL player at best (like so many on our list).
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #9 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben.
They're works in progress.
The old biomechanics of professional sport breaks the muscle memory trick again, fell for that one just last week!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #10 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Ill be honest, I have never seen this elite kicking from Boyd that everyone bangs on about. I have never rated him and never will, VFL player at best (like so many on our list).
His long kicking is / was as good as any on our list, the problem seems to be making decisions when hitting short targets or too often taking the safe option.

Our game plan has changed drastically when we are playing well. I suspect this is the start of the Plan B we've been asking for and that we need desperately, and the longer kicking Plan A variant remains as needed.

It looks to me that quite a few like Boyd and Doc are struggling to adapt play on demand when we switch up tactics during the game, so you get long bombs and b0rked up short kicks that seem out of place relative to the rest of the squad. FWIW, I thought Saad seemed to be struggling earlier in the season with similar issues but has started to settle. You can't mistake the look of hesitancy and doubt they have, they must suppress that instinct they have to hot potato the footy 50m down field.

Charlie looks a little lost at the moment as well, he seems to be getting trapped in no-mans land a lot. When he is in Harry has looked more functional as a KPF and has straightened us up a bit, but isn't clunking them as well as he can at the moment.

I thought one of the things we lost with SoJ out was his footy smarts, he was getting to the right place at the right time and it makes a huge difference. Not surprising, given he grew up watching his old man so it probably makes sense he appears to fit right in even if he isn't comfortable yet, he still knows roughly where to be and when. It might not be what SoJ wants, but I think it's his most suitable role yet.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #11 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: DJC – on


Boyd's disposal by foot has been as bad as some of the worst kicks by Doc and McGovern  ::)
Ill be honest, I have never seen this elite kicking from Boyd that everyone bangs on about. I have never rated him and never will, VFL player at best (like so many on our list).
His kicking has gone backwards, turned it over vs Coburg and he is also giving away dumb frees by being over aggressive at the wrong time.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #12 –
I reckon it's hard to judge how someone will go in the 1's based on VFL form - when you are playing in a VFL-level team with VFL-level teamwork and game plans, it might be that the better players try to bite off more than they can chew.  

I certainly think we need more back-half dash, because EVERY SINGLE TIME we let the ball get out the back, the opposition get an easy goal.  We have no cover whatsoever.  Watching poor old Weiters trying to chase down a half-forward rabbit is becoming far too common.

On that score, I think Boyd needs to play.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #13 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
I reckon it's hard to judge how someone will go in the 1's based on VFL form - when you are playing in a VFL-level team with VFL-level teamwork and game plans, it might be that the better players try to bite off more than they can chew. 

I certainly think we need more back-half dash, because EVERY SINGLE TIME we let the ball get out the back, the opposition get an easy goal.  We have no cover whatsoever.  Watching poor old Weiters trying to chase down a half-forward rabbit is becoming far too common.

On that score, I think Boyd needs to play.
I doubt that's about dash and more about defensive positioning. It was very poor on the weekend and very good the weeks before. I am hoping that we clean it up for the game this week, SOS is very important to the defensive structure.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda

Reply #14 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
I reckon it's hard to judge how someone will go in the 1's based on VFL form - when you are playing in a VFL-level team with VFL-level teamwork and game plans, it might be that the better players try to bite off more than they can chew. 

I certainly think we need more back-half dash, because EVERY SINGLE TIME we let the ball get out the back, the opposition get an easy goal.  We have no cover whatsoever.  Watching poor old Weiters trying to chase down a half-forward rabbit is becoming far too common.

On that score, I think Boyd needs to play.

How very true, Big T.

It's a fine line, in some respects. There are blokes who just don't show their best until they're under the pressure of senior footy. Then there are blokes who look great at VFL level but just can't seem to reproduce that form at senior level... do they need more time? Or just not up to it.

It seems our focus for the Magoos is development ahead of Ws and Ls. Not sure I agree with this apparent priority and focus. Above all else, most blokes who play our sport seek to be winners and to be a part of a winning culture. Winning, in any competitive sport nourishes and encourages... reward for effort. I wonder how much better people develop in a winning culture than a very individualised development approach?

Perhaps Billy Wilson is a case in point. He arrived full of dash and dare. Has that been nourished and developed? Or has he been given a different focus, more defensive say, that fails to play him to his strengths then develop other aspects along the way?

Have we become so fixated, in the Magoos and at senior level, on this (old fashioned?) contest and pressure that other important aspects of winning (hitting the scoreboard, often) have been neglected?
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17