AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

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Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #30 – May 10, 2025, 12:52:22 am

Quote from: shawny – on May 10, 2025, 12:33:36 am

As ive said many times Charlie is overrated due to being exciting to watch.

Hes great when the ball is delivered to his advantage but FMD he does my head in when the pressure is right on or when he doesnt have the space to work in.

looks lazy and disinterested when the going gets tough. if only he had even one half of jacks heart

Harry can be frustrating but opposite to Charlie when the game is in the balance he pushes himself hard and as a result his best work is regularly done when the game is being decided.

Charlie played on one of the best and in form key defenders in the competition, and his teammates didn’t do him too many favours with their delivery. Despite that, Charlie kicked three goals, took seven marks and won more one on one contests against Wilkie than any of his other opponents over the last several seasons. And then there’s a couple of Coleman medals!

I reckon some folk underrate Charlie. He is a genuine superstar even without a pre-season!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #31 – May 10, 2025, 01:21:24 am

A significant factor in the game was Crippa's eventually decisive victory over Steele. Crippa did have quiet patches but he was always contributing even if it was tackles, blocks and gaining a metre here and there, rather than racking up disposals and clearances ... not that 26 disposals, 10 tackles and 8 clearances is a quiet night at the office. If Crippa had slotted the two very gettable shots at goal, you would have to expect 3 votes - P Cripps.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #32 – May 10, 2025, 05:50:04 am

Hard to see it as anything but a Ross the Boss drudge game, and we won it in his own style!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #33 – May 10, 2025, 07:26:04 am

What you see is what you get with Curnow.
He can be a brilliant player.
He can turn a game off his own boot.
For whatever reason, his second efforts aren't great, and once the initial contest is lost he often struggles to stay involved.

On Binns and Evans...I think they probably stay until Cottrell and Fogarty come back.

Lord should probably get a full game (second in our tackle count after coming on as a sub)

Apart from the injuries we probably don't need to make too many changes, but let's see what the VFL throws up.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #34 – May 10, 2025, 07:29:31 am

I didn’t mind the tough slog, and found it to be quite an absorbing contest. I enjoyed it more than some of the high scoring, sling shot games that we’ve had. Great win and some players really took their moments.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #35 – May 10, 2025, 07:39:25 am

Quote from: shawny – on May 10, 2025, 12:33:36 am

As ive said many times Charlie is overrated due to being exciting to watch.

Hes great when the ball is delivered to his advantage but FMD he does my head in when the pressure is right on or when he doesnt have the space to work in.

looks lazy and disinterested when the going gets tough. if only he had even one half of jacks heart

Harry can be frustrating but opposite to Charlie when the game is in the balance he pushes himself hard and as a result his best work is regularly done when the game is being decided.

We could do with some more overrated hacks that kick 3 goals a game on an AA defender in top form.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #36 – May 10, 2025, 07:53:22 am

Interesting, and fairly even battle between Marshall and De Koning.
I'd give Tom the points victory but it kind of makes me wonder what role he would have if he did make the move.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #37 – May 10, 2025, 07:59:45 am

Solid effort, but gee it was a hard watch. We could have put it all to bed but missed two sitters in the last (Elijah, Durds) that would have made things far more comfortable.

What I wouldn't give for a team who can not only win the contested ball, but can then hit kicks and handballs.

We are too sloppy to worry the top sides. I watched the Pies against Freo, and their disposal is elite - precise and definite.

Our crew lob up more Hail Marys than the new pope, and miss more targets than a blind sniper.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #38 – May 10, 2025, 08:05:22 am

Watching the game last night, if we had a Milera, we would just about be unbeatable. Speed, endurance, elite delivery.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #39 – May 10, 2025, 08:09:11 am

Quote from: PaulP – on May 10, 2025, 07:29:31 am

I didn’t mind the tough slog, and found it to be quite an absorbing contest. I enjoyed it more than some of the high scoring, sling shot games that we’ve had. Great win and some players really took their moments.

Agree but at the same time it was frustrating also. It was an excellent coaching performance by Voss and co last night, used Ross's ugly style to our advantage and going tall and backing Young in was 100% the right thing to do.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #40 – May 10, 2025, 08:41:46 am

Green shoots!
Cooper Lord - progressing nicely. Interesting to look back at that clincher goal he kicked in the last quarter.
He took the ball mid back line, hit team-mate with accurate pass, ran in to forward line, positioned to take pass from McKay.
Then of course finished really well with that goal.
Not raking up big numbers yet, but great pick up CFC recruiters.
12 disposals, 8 tackles 1 goal (played 3 quarters)

Jaxon Binns - really pleased to see this young guy heavily in the play last night after a good apprenticeship in the VFL . Perhaps still to find the poise needed to finish and pass accurately under pressure, but a good step forward last night IMO.
22 disposals, 2 tackles 1 goal

Ab

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #41 – May 10, 2025, 08:57:45 am

Quote from: Adelaideblue – on May 10, 2025, 08:41:46 am

Green shoots!
Cooper Lord - progressing nicely. Interesting to look back at that clincher goal he kicked in the last quarter.
He took the ball mid back line, hit team-mate with accurate pass, ran in to forward line, positioned to take pass from McKay.
Then of course finished really well with that goal.
Not raking up big numbers yet, but great pick up CFC recruiters.
12 disposals, 8 tackles 1 goal (played 3 quarters)

Jaxon Binns - really pleased to see this young guy heavily in the play last night after a good apprenticeship in the VFL . Perhaps still to find the poise needed to finish and pass accurately under pressure, but a good step forward last night IMO.
22 disposals, 2 tackles 1 goal

Ab

It’s easy to forget that Lord and Binns have only played 12 games between them. Their lack of experience is evident at times but their doggedness is that of seasoned veterans.

Lord has already shown that he belongs but that was the first time I’ve seen Binns reproduce his VFL form at AFL level … not that he’s had many opportunities. I don’t think that either will become elite footballers but both have the makings of dependable, hardworking foot soldiers.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #42 – May 10, 2025, 09:29:20 am

In our past 3 games we've seen 3 different Bluebaggers. 2 of them, very good.

There seems to have been a shift in our game day coaching, more flexibility. Also the MC, dropping Doc again and going into this game tall was necessary and creative.

I don't get the Charles criticisms. Yes, he's laconic but with opposition sides double and triple teaming him at every chance says they regard him highly, good enough for moi.

Also don't get the criticism of our smalls/small forwards. Their pressure, all night, was terrific, with Binnsy and Will W taking opportunities to hit the scoreboard on a night where goals were gold.

Bravo Cooper L. Final qtr, less than a kick in it, took his opportunity with terrific determination and composure... that's the mental toughness I bang on about. Not overawed, focussed. Ditto, H.

Binnsy and Lij were so, so important in that win. Elite work rate.

JSOS is rapidly elevating himself to one of the much better key defenders in the game. With aggott in hand you just know he'll deliver it well to the best option. Haynes value is now cemented.

And this Young bloke we've all been critical of is gaining confidence... and dare I say, importance!

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #43 – May 10, 2025, 09:39:44 am

Lord did come on early but his actual game time was less than 50% of the match.
He ended up with our second best tackle count 8 in that time.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #44 – May 10, 2025, 09:46:44 am

Quote from: tonyo – on May 10, 2025, 07:59:45 am

Solid effort, but gee it was a hard watch. We could have put it all to bed but missed two sitters in the last (Elijah, Durds) that would have made things far more comfortable.

What I wouldn't give for a team who can not only win the contested ball, but can then hit kicks and handballs.

We are too sloppy to worry the top sides. I watched the Pies against Freo, and their disposal is elite - precise and definite.

Our crew lob up more Hail Marys than the new pope, and miss more targets than a blind sniper.

I think one of the keys to the disposal issue is the amount of pressure the opposition can bring.
If the pressure is not there players are free to execute with time and space.

Our pressure, when it is on, is one of our strengths.
Apply it with enough intensity and the opposition's elite skills suddenly won't look so elite.

We may not match some of these sides in terms of our disposal efficiency, so we have to play to our strengths and make them feel the pressure and make those rushed decisions.