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Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #30 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Resting Pittonet after the heavy knock he received made sense, .
@DJC I didn't see the game, were we just being cautious given how fatigued TDK looked?
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Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #31 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: DJC – on
Resting Pittonet after the heavy knock he received made sense, .
@DJC I didn't see the game, were we just being cautious given how fatigued TDK looked?

Pitto copped a knee to the ribs and there was some discussion about whether he was taken off because he was restricted or to ensure that he was available for Friday night.  Either way, Lemmey came into the game when Pitto went off.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #32 –
Data from the club:
SANDRINGHAM                1.5      2.6     5.8       6.11 (47)
CARLTON RESERVES        2.4      6.7      8.7     9.11 (65)

GOALS: Carlton: McMahon 4, Moir 2, Hayes, Nelson, Poole

BEST: Carlton: Wilson, Phillips, McMahon, Docherty, Hayes, Nelson

I don't necessarily agree. Phillips played his best game for us so far. If he could out-body today's key forwards he'd be a shoe-in for a senior spot. As it is, he is still a chance. His kicking is also something of a concern; the commentators mention it every game. :(

McMahon was decent, but not in the top 5, not in my opinion. He could have been if he hadn't sprayed his last couple of shots: 6 goals 1 would have deserved a top billing.

Doc: it is often the case that it takes a year to get back to full confidence and pace after a knee reco, so I wouldn't be surprised if Doc is thinking of playing on. He still reads the game well and is a strong body. His disposal ... herein lies the problem. Under pressure his kicking has been ordinary for quite a while. It isn't improving, as in the seniors, he is under pressure more often now.
I'd really love to see Doc back at his best, but I'm struggling to see it.

Bit surprised Luke Nelson got a mention. He was solid and dangerous, with 16 disposals and a 1 goal. He had 5 tackles, but I thought others were more significant.
Cooper Vickery was one; he had 24 disposals and 5 marks in his best game for us so far. Vickery's kicking was a mixed bag, with some ripper passes and a couple of real floaters. Still, the longer the game went on, the better he played.
I liked Kristian Ferronato as well: 19 disposals, 5 tackles and 4 clearances. He is getting more involved and looking better, after not really impressing last year.
Darcy Hogg also did some nice things, although he needs to lower his eyes when kicking into the forward 50.
Heath Ramshaw was probably down a bit, with 16 possessions, but his 8 tackles and 4 clearances show how important he is to our midfield mix. Heath has become a really good contributor at this level.
I also liked Stirling Phipps-Parsons' first half. He dropped out of the game after half time, but he did some nice things before half time. He was clean on the ground and doing the right things at the right time.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #33 –
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Apparently Matt Carroll was withdrawn from the game because he may be required for the Firsts next Friday.  If true, that seems a little odd to me.

Doc was a class above the opposition but he had plenty of time to choose the best option and generally executed well.  I don’t think that he’s played his last AFL game but that’s got more to do with our injury trends than his form.



Last week a lot of scoring was done through Carroll. 

Hes not the first won't be the last to struggle in his third afl game.

Keeping him fresh is a good idea, but it speaks to where our list is at from a "how fit are we" perspective.

Hopefully we are eyeing off post bye to start our season in earnest.

I dont mind Carroll, but he was a bit of a weak link defensively.   Wonder what's going on with Boyd. Something not adding up there.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #34 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Wonder what's going on with Boyd. Something not adding up there.

When Boyd was first added to the list, there was a lot of commentary about his disposal; lots of accurate, aggressive kicks that pin-pointed teammates in good positions, but too many kicks that missed targets.  He ironed out the kinks and could generally be relied on to pick the best option and deliver the ball lace out.  This season, his kicking is letting him down again and he seems to have more than a few brain fades that benefit the opposition.

I thought that he was a lot better last night in terms of his decision-making, kicking accuracy and concentration.  He could well be back in the mix.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #35 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: LP – on

@DJC I didn't see the game, were we just being cautious given how fatigued TDK looked?

Pitto copped a knee to the ribs and there was some discussion about whether he was taken off because he was restricted or to ensure that he was available for Friday night.  Either way, Lemmey came into the game when Pitto went off.

Pitto returned to the field and competed strongly in a contest before leaving and not returning, was he sore or did he show that he was ok and was put in cottonwool because TDK may also be sore…?
Let’s go BIG !

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #36 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: LP – on

@DJC I didn't see the game, were we just being cautious given how fatigued TDK looked?

Pitto copped a knee to the ribs and there was some discussion about whether he was taken off because he was restricted or to ensure that he was available for Friday night.  Either way, Lemmey came into the game when Pitto went off.

Lemmey tried to do a little ruck work but it would be a gross overstatement to suggest he made much of a contribution.

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #37 –
At the moment, Lemmey is looking like he won't make it. He just doesn't have the intensity required. Disappointing, but that is the way it is.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #38 –
Quote from: Baggers – on

Doc had a holiday and when given plenty of time, which he often had, his disposal was good. But the few times he was under real pressure, again disposal was wayward.  Seems to have lost a yard (or more) but could still serve as a useful backup when required.

Still not convinced with McMahon. Seems a good old fashioned FF/CHF, mark and kick kind of guy. Might just be a useful VFL player.

Lemmey looks better when forced to get into the action.  I know big guys can take time (see Lewis Young) but Lemmey seems to be a one-trick pony whose only trick is to mark the ball when he is not under physical pressure.  Lacks speed, acceleration and mobility.

Campo boys coming along nicely, just need to work on disposal... and eliminate fumbles. Agreed.

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #39 –
lemmey getting bad reviews in the seconds ,i suggest we move him on stop wasting time (NFL ) style ,

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #40 –
Lemmey is still only a lad, and talls tend to take longer than mids to get AFL ready, but he is not looking good at this point. I wouldn't be making any hasty decisions about his future, but with McMahon going significantly better, he needs to lift and show more if he is to get more time.
At least some of his problem is belief: he doesn't believe he can get to contests, so he doesn't and looks disinterested. Jack Silvagni, like his old man, never believes he won't get to a contest, so he often does when you don't expect him to. Not sure you can teach stuff like that.
Wiggins was a bit like that: if the ball was close enough, he was tenacious. But if the ball was only cms further away ...
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #41 –
Lemmey has excellent field kicking, can they play him further up the ground ?
Or is this where the backline theory originates ?
Let’s go BIG !
 

Re: VFL 2025 Rd 7 Carlton vs Sandringham

Reply #42 –
Lemmey tends to get squeezed out with Pitto, Skull and McMahon in the team, and his teammates didn’t give him any favours.

I think it was our first goal that he had a hand in with a linking up possession and a nice pass inside 50.  He could be more value if he spent more time up the ground rather than watching the ball sail over his head or not make it to his territory close to goal.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!