Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #105 – May 27, 2025, 07:57:21 am https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/doesn-t-fight-hard-lloyd-puts-heat-on-coleman-medallist/ar-AA1Fwyln?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=ca0b9429ca5845ecba199644af1d52f1&ei=18Stating the obvious.... Lots are piling on.'Drive by's' in some respects.They don't delve deeply in to reasons why some of these things are happening. (restrictive injuries)They certainly don't offer any solutions other than replacing players....which is easier said than done.But mostly they aren't saying a lot different to what many of us are saying. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #106 – May 27, 2025, 08:03:24 am I just saw and read a few more of these "drive bys".It's like they're parroting what we're saying. These buggers are stealing 'our' material. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #107 – May 27, 2025, 08:19:36 am Quote from: Lods – on May 27, 2025, 08:03:24 amI just saw and read a few more of these "drive bys".It's like they're parroting what we're saying. These buggers are stealing 'our' material. It's like watching a slow-motion train wobbling all over the tracks, with other trains shooting past. Will it run off the rails completely, or regain stability... how did it develop this potentially disastrous wobble? Unfortunately we're the white-knuckle passengers aboard this train! Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #108 – May 27, 2025, 08:25:15 am I'm thinking of getting off this train and waiting for the next one.It should be along about the end of the year Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #109 – May 27, 2025, 08:35:28 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 26, 2025, 03:53:07 pmQuote from: laj – on May 26, 2025, 03:40:04 pmAttitude changed instantly after the pow wow at Ed's place. Then we won 10 in a row. Those finals wins were good ones as we were nearly cooked by then. That was our one chance to get a premiership if we didn't play in such poor, often lazy fashion the first half of 2023. The side is similar, structure definitely needs work though for the next step but attitude is everything, and that's the worst part. Without that, nothing else matters. May as well shuffle the deck chair on the Titanic. 2023 it changed overnight and changed the fortunes.You know after thinking about what I watched on Sat and watching Terry's (Blue Abroad) review, something didn't look right with the players. The attitude doesnt seem quite there and I wonder what's the cause? Is the TDK move and potential senior player move causing angst? Is the E Hollands situation worse than what we know? Ollie in particular looked flat as a tack from when he ran out.Dunno, could be me just jumping to conclusions based purely on what I perceive (think I see) with no inside knowledge whatsoever.Rumour I heard after the weekend was EH issue was relationship issues involving someone else’s partner from the club. This came from someone that’s around the club a lot but who knows. People say all sorts of stuff.To me there doesn’t seem to be great camaraderie and why that is, only they know. I don’t sense they play for each other at all tho and yes they’re professional sportsmen and winning is the goal and they should be able to pocket any drama and just win. Winning does bring people together and I’m sure losing does the opposite.Don’t know the answer but wouldn’t want to be Voss Lloyd or Austin at the moment as they will be feeling the pressure. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #110 – May 27, 2025, 08:55:09 am Quote from: Lods – on May 27, 2025, 08:25:15 amI'm thinking of getting off this train and waiting for the next one.It should be along about the end of the year Likewise. Might be a new driver, engineer and conductors Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #111 – May 27, 2025, 10:33:14 am I’m struggling with maintaining interest at the moment, finding it hard to watch the footy at all in fact. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #112 – May 27, 2025, 11:00:54 am Quote from: cookie2 – on May 27, 2025, 10:33:14 amI’m struggling with maintaining interest at the moment, finding it hard to watch the footy at all in fact.Nah there's some terrific footy to watch, just not our games. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #113 – May 27, 2025, 11:51:02 am Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 26, 2025, 03:07:57 pmQuote from: pertz – on May 26, 2025, 02:54:42 pmI wouldn't be trading McKay. He is a very important player. Im all for trading Harry, I think two tall key forwards isnt the go in modern footy and we need a class small forward and a class half back more. The times we have played with one key forward and an inbetween tall like Kemp in the other KP we have looked a bit slicker and more modern in our playing style.If TDK goes and either Harry or Sam Walsh are traded we might be able to reset quickly with the draft capital, Graeme Wright presided over the Grundy/Treloar trades and the Pies had a flag in 12 months time.Id want Wright in charge of any of these bigger trades both outgoing and incoming, time to roll the dice imho.Im 150% with you EB. We need to be all chips in for this years trade period and if we think a few little tweaks here and there will be enough we are more delusional then i thought.Apart from Weitering and Cripps i think any of our other so called A graders should be possible names thrown up during the trade period providing of course if we can get 'proven quality' in the areas we need coming back the other way. Without this this list wont go deep into finals and with our top end talent going past their prime we will have to concede the rebuild has failed. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #114 – May 27, 2025, 12:00:25 pm I think H is impoetsnt to us, he can be used around the ground and always takes amazing clutch marks.Re footy and losing interest - same. When we’re not contenders - again - I don’t care about other teams at all. It’s depressing hearing the Pies are again flying etc 🙄 Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #115 – May 27, 2025, 12:23:55 pm Quote from: Micky0 – on May 27, 2025, 12:00:25 pmI think H is impoetsnt to us, he can be used around the ground and always takes amazing clutch marks............Agree Micky. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #116 – May 27, 2025, 12:56:11 pm Quote from: Micky0 – on May 27, 2025, 08:35:28 amQuote from: Gointocarlton – on May 26, 2025, 03:53:07 pmYou know after thinking about what I watched on Sat and watching Terry's (Blue Abroad) review, something didn't look right with the players. The attitude doesnt seem quite there and I wonder what's the cause? Is the TDK move and potential senior player move causing angst? Is the E Hollands situation worse than what we know? Ollie in particular looked flat as a tack from when he ran out.Dunno, could be me just jumping to conclusions based purely on what I perceive (think I see) with no inside knowledge whatsoever.Rumour I heard after the weekend was EH issue was relationship issues involving someone else’s partner from the club. This came from someone that’s around the club a lot but who knows. People say all sorts of stuff.To me there doesn’t seem to be great camaraderie and why that is, only they know. I don’t sense they play for each other at all tho and yes they’re professional sportsmen and winning is the goal and they should be able to pocket any drama and just win. Winning does bring people together and I’m sure losing does the opposite.Don’t know the answer but wouldn’t want to be Voss Lloyd or Austin at the moment as they will be feeling the pressure.wooah - if true, that is huge. could explain a bit Quote Selected Last Edit: May 27, 2025, 01:03:09 pm by Milhanna13
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #117 – May 27, 2025, 01:01:52 pm Quote from: kruddler – on May 26, 2025, 08:51:59 pmQuote from: laj – on May 26, 2025, 08:46:19 pmLooks like AFL 360 called us "The Lygon Street Butchers".Talks about poor entry inside F50....showed 1 example of a miskick as proof we can't kick.2 second analysis based on numbers, not game plan.Someone is always going to be 18th. Doesn't mean they can't kick.you mean a footy show based a whole segment on 1 or 2 pieces of footage??? wow, thats never happenned before. every time one of those blokes (lloyd especially) stands up in front of the screen, they show 1 or 2 pieces of footage and use it as proof of an absolute statement!!most of these shows had melbourne dead and buried for the next few years, and then this week they are the next collingwood!!last week walsh was back and his ball use was amazing, now he is our weak link and not in the top 30 mids in the comp.way too much space to fill, with way too little to talk about, on the 53 different shows.... Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #118 – May 27, 2025, 01:25:55 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on May 27, 2025, 10:33:14 amI’m struggling with maintaining interest at the moment, finding it hard to watch the footy at all in fact.Many Bluebaggers feel similar, Fluffy One. The passion is being bled out of us by what we've had to endure for a long time now. And the false dawn offered by Vossy is appearing to be just that. Our crowds at recent home games have been uncustomarily subdued. I had two seats to last Saturday's game and my bro and I decided not to bother. Never have felt that way before... even during lean periods. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS Reply #119 – May 27, 2025, 01:58:17 pm Quote from: shawny – on May 27, 2025, 11:51:02 amQuote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on May 26, 2025, 03:07:57 pmIm all for trading Harry, I think two tall key forwards isnt the go in modern footy and we need a class small forward and a class half back more. The times we have played with one key forward and an inbetween tall like Kemp in the other KP we have looked a bit slicker and more modern in our playing style.If TDK goes and either Harry or Sam Walsh are traded we might be able to reset quickly with the draft capital, Graeme Wright presided over the Grundy/Treloar trades and the Pies had a flag in 12 months time.Id want Wright in charge of any of these bigger trades both outgoing and incoming, time to roll the dice imho.Im 150% with you EB. We need to be all chips in for this years trade period and if we think a few little tweaks here and there will be enough we are more delusional then i thought.Apart from Weitering and Cripps i think any of our other so called A graders should be possible names thrown up during the trade period providing of course if we can get 'proven quality' in the areas we need coming back the other way. Without this this list wont go deep into finals and with our top end talent going past their prime we will have to concede the rebuild has failed. Harry is very important around the ground. Hasn't kicked the scoreboard down but he has done a great job a round the ground in a 2nd ruck role.Thing is, in our situation we can alot of knee jerk type reactions that one can regret. Stuill have to think about it. We had players traded everywhere in 2023 up to round 13. That soon changed. Quote Selected Last Edit: May 27, 2025, 02:05:40 pm by laj