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Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #15 –
Hey guys, let me just catch you all up.  This is our 2012 all over again.  The team isnt fit, it isnt firing.  It is good enough, but not this year.  Accept it and hopefully we can use the year to develope some of the kids and structures and work out which players we can persist with moving forward.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #16 –
for years we have been to SLOW like i  said weeks ago we need  3 Chris yarran in the side (before the trouble )

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #17 –
Got home too late to watch the game live, may not bother watching it on Kayo now.

White, Carroll, Binns, Young, McGovern & Curnow - zero tackles between them.

McKay went goal-less.

First gamer O'Farrell had 9 disposals as did Motlop & Acres, however, he had more than Young, Durdin & Binns did.

Looks like we had some complete passengers & others who just didn't apply themselves enough.

We have the bye next week (based on current form, we may still lose this one) but the next three after that are Essendon, West Coast & North Melbourne which we would be expected to win.

Thing is, it's all well & good to dine out on the cellar dwellers, its taking wins from teams like GWS who are genuinely in the hunt that truly counts.

I've said it before but I'll say it again, most of this current group of players are frauds and will never take us anywhere. We are at absolute best, a mid-table team who will be of occassional nuisance value but nothing more.

Swing the bloody axe at season's end, I've had enough of this crape.

"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #18 –
Two weeks in a row we lose to a team well below their best with many top liners missing.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #19 –
I said it at round 4 it was season over and it well and truely is now. We are a club that is poorly coached have yesterdays strategies by line coaches that would not get a gig in any other team yet we roll with them year after year after year despite there being no progress at all.

How many years do we say how poor our kick ins are or how poor our kicking into F50 is or just plain dumb decision making that real deal well coached structures sides seldom make the dumb mistakes we cough up goals every week. Good teams lose games but not the same way every time

Our coaching and list management needs not just a tweak but a massive overhaul a mini rebuild if you like and i hope Mr Wright has the gonads to do it cause without massive change we will be all bark and no bite for another decade.

Voss has had 4 years with a list in their prime - change is needed now folks with coaches and major list changes.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #20 –
One of the problems we face is that our very best half dozen or so aren't getting any younger,  and many of them are starting to show a bit of wear and tear.

We're criticising some of them for not showing total effort, but what we're seeing may be all they're capable of at the moment.

Just watching the group I'm starting to have a few questions regarding things like-

Are they all at the same level in terms of commitment?
Is there currently a bit of a divide amongst the group?
Has the moving on of some players caused a bit of friction?
Are they fully on board with the coaches (all of them) messaging and expectations?
Are they capable of performing to those expectations?
Are we still playing injured players?

Even though we're still a possibility of finals it's getting further away, and unless there was a massive turnaround, we would just be making up numbers anyway.
If we don't make it that's a definite step backwards.
We (rightly) were able to play the injury card last year.
I doubt we'll be convincing trotting it out again.

'Backwards to go forward' isn't necessarily a bad thing, but in football world it's always a risky strategy.
It has to be built on a strong foundation too, and our foundations are starting to develop a few cracks.
We don't need band-aid solutions like "cabin in the woods" meetings.
We need strong, united commitment, where effort and intensity are non-negotiables.

In the end it might be that this group isn't going to go much further.
It may be that the make-up of this side just doesn't cut it, and options for shaking that up are limited unless we roll the dice on a couple of our 'star' players.
Accepting that and making the necessary changes may be the best way forward.

The microscope will be on us again this week.
Pressure will just keep increasing in the second half of the year if there is no improvement.
Some of us can see the merits in holding the line, but I think we'd all accept that there are many things not working at the moment.
Heaven forbid we go down the 'nuclear' rebuild path ever again, but we certainly look like we need some substantial renovations.


Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #22 –
Bad luck boys,  better luck next week.
We'll get them next time...

Well, that's what they'll all get told.

If things go well I'll have 25 years left and going on the last 25 years I'm not holding out any hope of seeing a premiership.
Meanwhile in that time the Hawks will win their standard 5, the Filth will get 3 and the Bummers will probably do a threepeat.

By that time no one will be around who can remember our glory days so we'll become the Darwin Blues.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #23 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone – on
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
Short of a miracle, it's another year in the count towards a 3rd decade.

Correction: 4th decade.

😰
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #24 –
Quote from: pew2 – on
for years we have been to SLOW like i  said weeks ago we need  3 Chris yarran in the side (before the trouble )

I agree with this - every team knows that if they are able to get the ball outside a contest and spread we simply can’t keep pace, exacerbated by our slow (and often poor) game plan/decision making.

I’ve never seen a slower small forward brigade and our wings and half backs are also so slow.

I’d be seriously considering trading/delisting 15+ including a selection of our more highly rated players to get some trade currency to get some balance through the list.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #25 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone – on
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
Short of a miracle, it's another year in the count towards a 3rd decade.

Correction: 4th decade.
To be honest, I can't see us winning a premiership while I live. I'm 64.
There isn't the desire. There isn't the skill. There isn't the game plan.
Our list isn't one that is going to challenge.
We don't stop the oppositions' better players; we play them into form.

We are irrelevant. I never thought I'd be writing that, but it is accurate at the moment.

We're much better than we were not that long ago, but we've managed to get into the pack in the middle. That looks like as far as we'll get in this cycle. We need to learn and move on or we'll spend another cycle ending up nowhere.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #26 –
At this rate, TDK will see at flag a StKilda before we do at Carlton.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #27 –
We've addressed the inconsistency issue: we lost all four quarter today - consistency.
Further evidence of being consistent: failed again to capitalize (or even look like it after qtr time) on forward entries. ::)

Our game plan is successful in that we aim to make it difficult to score against us. Opposition coaches and pundits applaud this aspect of our game. Unfortunately there seems no clear identity or plan to be winners. We talked more about the reality of losing at the beginning of the season... a self fulfilling prophecy.

Listening to Vossy talk about us and our issues before and after the game I was left wondering what planet he was on. Rainbows and sunshine. He does excel at word salads filled with positives. A reality free zone.

When the heat is dialled up we have a number of blokes who can't handle it. No names, no pack-drill.
Blokes I do trust when the heat comes: JSOS, O Hollands, Cerra, Cripps, Acres, Doc (welcome back to form, champ), Weiters (not a great day, today), Newman, Cincotta and Lord (this kid is a pearl).
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #28 –
Quote from: BluePhantom – on
Bad luck boys,  better luck next week.
We'll get them next time...

Well, that's what they'll all get told.

If things go well I'll have 25 years left and going on the last 25 years I'm not holding out any hope of seeing a premiership.
Meanwhile in that time the Hawks will win their standard 5, the Filth will get 3 and the Bummers will probably do a threepeat.

By that time no one will be around who can remember our glory days so we'll become the Darwin Blues.
At my age I’m definitely looking down the barrel of never seeing another Blue flag. This is now more of a probability than a possibility.  🏆?
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2025 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs GWS

Reply #29 –
Same old rubbish.