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Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #90 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Hegseth and Meink made it very clear, in the week before the attack on Iran, that the two Wedgetail prototypes will be the end of the line.
I suspect it's weasel words, and look to the future for a rebranding, because I'm hearing otherwise.

Trumptail ?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #92 –
Diesel is $2.94 per litre from a wholesaler's outlet on the Bellarine  :(

Meanwhile an analysis of shipping in the Strait of Hormuz indicates that vessels are voluntarily rerouting through Iranian territorial waters to get safe passage.  An unintended consequence of Taco's war is Iran having greater leverage with global energy trade.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #93 –
Joe Kent, Director of the USA's National Counterterrorism Center just resigned, stating:

"I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby."

Kent details, in a letter to the POTUS, how he has been manipulated by high ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media.  He concludes with a plea;

"I pray that you will reflect on what we are doing in Iran, and who we are doing it for.  The time for bold action is now.  You can reverse course and chart a new path for our nation, or you can allow us to slip further toward decline and chaos."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-18/who-is-joe-kent-counterterrorism-trump-administration/106468640?utm_source=braze&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20260318_newspm_newsletter&utm_id=69ba46691b7e01b1edc3d66fa22d95ee&braze_id=69141093a9e9b500561146e5

Kent is a former Green Beret and was MAGA, but to Taco, he is now "weak on security" and those like him [who oppose the war]
"... are not smart people, or they're not savvy people."  I guess that means that the savvy people are Witkoff, Kushner, Hegseth and Rubio.  ::) 

"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #94 –
Trump said "I always thought he was a nice guy but I always thought he was weak on security. Very weak on security."

Soooo...................why give him the job in the first place ?

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #95 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Trump said "I always thought he was a nice guy but I always thought he was weak on security. Very weak on security."

Soooo...................why give him the job in the first place ?

He wasn’t “weak on security” when he was MAGA.

What I find incomprehensible is that Kent is a former Green Beret and CIA operative but apparently knows less about security and military intelligence than a dodgy real estate developer with bone spurs. 🙄
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #96 –
Quote from: DJC – on
He wasn’t “weak on security” when he was MAGA.

What I find incomprehensible is that Kent is a former Green Beret and CIA operative but apparently knows less about security and military intelligence than a dodgy real estate developer with bone spurs. 🙄

These types (Trump, Hanson, Milei, Erdogan, Meloni, Le Pan and many many others) represent the next step in the degradation of global political discourse. The great work of distinguished, foundational thinkers like Plato and Aristotle, discussing what makes a good society, what makes good government, political knowledge vs political opinion, the importance of knowledge and virtue in leaders, enlightened citizenry etc., now seem like a sad, distant joke.

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #97 –
Maybe its as simple as the cycle.




G. Michael Hopf Quote: “Hard times create strong men. Strong ..."Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

The people currently leading the world are a bunch of silver spooners who are entitled.  The world is being run accordingly. 

Take the gender out of it of course.  I say this with the knowledge that I'm probably the most privileged person in my family line including those who are younger than me.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #98 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: DJC – on
He wasn’t “weak on security” when he was MAGA.

What I find incomprehensible is that Kent is a former Green Beret and CIA operative but apparently knows less about security and military intelligence than a dodgy real estate developer with bone spurs. 🙄

These types (Trump, Hanson, Milei, Erdogan, Meloni, Le Pan and many many others) represent the next step in the degradation of global political discourse. The great work of distinguished, foundational thinkers like Plato and Aristotle, discussing what makes a good society, what makes good government, political knowledge vs political opinion, the importance of knowledge and virtue in leaders, enlightened citizenry etc., now seem like a sad, distant joke.


I strongly suspect that Bibi is pulling the strings of Hegseth and the Orange One. Which is also very opportune considering the Epstein stuff and plummeting approvals for the Republicans approaching the mid-terms.

Spot on, Pauly, there's more than a gulf between the great Greek thinkers and philosophers, and the morally bankrupt creatures running the US at present. But I don't think the Yanks, by and large, are buying the turd sangers that Hegseth and Trump are serving up at the moment. Rapidly becoming the most unpopular invasion by the US in their history.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #99 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I strongly suspect that Bibi is pulling the strings of Hegseth and the Orange One. Which is also very opportune considering the Epstein stuff and plummeting approvals for the Republicans approaching the mid-terms.

I thought he was dead  :o 

Some of the AI around this is really funny.

The Israelis show pictures of him doing everyday things-getting a coffee, planning who next to bomb, crossing another Iranian leader off his Hanukkah list.

Obviously AI, scream the sceptics, he's a goner, died in Gemany two weeks ago.
They point to inconsistencies in the videos as proof.

But are the inconsistencies actually AI generated. ::)  ::)

We'll eventually find out if he's dead, but it my take a year or two.
One thing about the Iranians... they will let you know when someone is martyred.
 

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #100 –
According to Taco, Iran "gave us a present, and the present arrived today. It was a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money.  I'm not going to tell you what the present is, but it was a very significant prize."

He then revealed “They said to show you the fact that we're real and solid, and we're going to let you have eight boats (sic) of oil, eight boats, eight big boats of oil. This was two days ago, and they'll sail up tomorrow.”

He provided more clarification, "They said, to show you the fact that we're real and solid and we're there, we're going to let you have eight boats of oil, eight boats, eight big boats of oil. I guess they were right, and they were real, and I think they were Pakistani-flagged... It ended up being 10 boats."  He said that the two additional boats sent by Iran were "to apologise for something they said."

Unfortunately, shipping data for the Strait of Hormuz shows that five vessels have passed through the Strait since 23 March. Not ten, not eight, just five. And none of them are headed to the USA. Three are sailing to India, one is going to China, and the fifth is destined for Singapore.

If you're going to tell porkies, it's best if you don't embellish the story as you go and it's essential that they're not easily fact-checked.

With that in mind, cast your mind back to 4 March when Taco announced that the US International Development Finance Corporation would offer insurance “at a very reasonable price” for tankers and other ships in the Persian Gulf. He also said, “if necessary, the United States Navy will begin escorting tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, as soon as possible”.  And, with his trademark caps lock, posted on social media, “No matter what, the United States will ensure the FREE FLOW of ENERGY to the WORLD.”

It must be difficult to be the Bone Spurs in Chief of a complex military campaign with global implications when you have trouble understanding anything more complicated than a real estate transaction and find it hard to know what's real and what's imaginary.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball