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AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

If it were up to me


FB Hollands Weitering Saad
HB Haynes Silvagni Docherty
C Carroll Cripps Binns
HF Fogarty McGovern Cincotta
FF Motlop De Koning Williams
Foll Pittonet Cerra Hewett
Int Young Durdin Lord Fantasia Moir (s)

In Pittonet Young Moir
Out Curnow Acres O'Keeffe
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #1 –
Assuming Curnow is out, I’d probably go with debuts for Lemmey & Ben Camporeale. Acres/Docherty survive as there is nobody else, but I do want to see the back of Fantasia. Side looks weak but the best we can muster. Fogarty stiff and could replace Motlop.

Boyd Weitering Haynes
Saad Silvagni Carroll
Cincotta Cripps Acres
Motlop  Dekoning McGovern
Durdin Lemmey Williams

Pittonet Hewett Cerra

Lord Hollands BCampo Docherty

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #2 –
Moir hasn't done enough for a game based on what ive seen.

I wouldn't be dropping acres.  Sends the wrong message and he busts a gut.  He's also more versatile than most and is more likely to build into it and play at a level beyond most of our list.

We dont take our next opponent seriously and we'll pay for it.

Pittonet comes in for o'keefe as tdk will need the help dealing with Xerri. 

Lewis young probably comes in by default if curnow doesn't come up.  At least we can swing him forward and back, but id prefer lemmey came in, but not ahead of pittonet.

Hopefully just the one change, Francis Evans was one of our better players on the weekend and would be ahead of moir on form. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Moir hasn't done enough for a game based on what ive seen.

I wouldn't be dropping acres.  Sends the wrong message and he busts a gut.  He's also more versatile than most and is more likely to build into it and play at a level beyond most of our list.

We dont take our next opponent seriously and we'll pay for it.

Pittonet comes in for o'keefe as tdk will need the help dealing with Xerri. 

Lewis young probably comes in by default if curnow doesn't come up.  At least we can swing him forward and back, but id prefer lemmey came in, but not ahead of pittonet.

Hopefully just the one change, Francis Evans was one of our better players on the weekend and would be ahead of moir on form. 
I will dead set vomit if Evans ever plays a senior game for us again.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #4 –
I agree but you cant complain that players dont get dropped and needing to set standards and then bring in players undeserving of a game. 

If i could choose any small player from the vfl on last week's form Darcy Hogg would be my first choice.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #5 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I agree but you cant complain that players dont get dropped and needing to set standards and then bring in players undeserving of a game. 

If i could choose any small player from the vfl on last week's form Darcy Hogg would be my first choice.
Agree but I reckon Moir needs a crack for two reasons. I think he has some X factor that not many on list have. I think he might blossom if he had an extended crack in the 1s. Given our injury woes and the season almost done and dusted, why not expose the kid to senior footy.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
If i could choose any small player from the vfl on last week's form Darcy Hogg would be my first choice.

We need to get him on the list first.
And that's not out of the question if he keeps developing.
He's been pretty solid.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Moir hasn't done enough for a game based on what ive seen.

I wouldn't be dropping acres.  Sends the wrong message and he busts a gut.  He's also more versatile than most and is more likely to build into it and play at a level beyond most of our list.

We dont take our next opponent seriously and we'll pay for it.

Pittonet comes in for o'keefe as tdk will need the help dealing with Xerri. 

Lewis young probably comes in by default if curnow doesn't come up.  At least we can swing him forward and back, but id prefer lemmey came in, but not ahead of pittonet.

Hopefully just the one change, Francis Evans was one of our better players on the weekend and would be ahead of moir on form. 
I will dead set vomit if Evans ever plays a senior game for us again.

15 disposals, 3 goals, 6 score involvements....keep a bucket handy ;)  :D
 

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Moir hasn't done enough for a game based on what ive seen.

I wouldn't be dropping acres.  Sends the wrong message and he busts a gut.  He's also more versatile than most and is more likely to build into it and play at a level beyond most of our list.

We dont take our next opponent seriously and we'll pay for it.

Pittonet comes in for o'keefe as tdk will need the help dealing with Xerri. 

Lewis young probably comes in by default if curnow doesn't come up.  At least we can swing him forward and back, but id prefer lemmey came in, but not ahead of pittonet.

Hopefully just the one change, Francis Evans was one of our better players on the weekend and would be ahead of moir on form.

Yes, Moir has to earn a game.  He was pretty good two weeks ago but reverted to a cameo role on Sunday.

Acres is down on form but is still in our better players and way ahead of any the blokes who played in the VFL last week.  The only way he’ll miss is if he’d benefit from a week off.

Replacing McKay with a ruck/KPF worked … until Skull did his hammy.  Skull’s replacement has to depend on whether Charlie is OK, and I think he will be.  Then there’s the Xerri - De Koning contest.  Xerri got the numbers last time but he had little influence and we smashed North in clearances.  I don’t think that we need to bring in Pitto to counter Xerri.

If Charlie plays, then Young or Lemmey comes in for Skull.  I’d go with Lemmey, simply because I think it would be a good opportunity to see how he goes at AFL level, and he’s spent a couple of years training with Charlie and knows the running patterns. His recent VFL form has been very good.

If Charlie doesn’t get up, we’re faced with the dilemma of going with a combination of a first game KPF/ruck with a ruckman trying to be a KPF or a KPD trying to be a KPF.  Alternatively, we could go with McGovern as an undersized KPF but he’s much better value as a third tall.

Frank the Tank’s VFL form has been good, but not good enough to displace any of our small forwards.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #8 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
If i could choose any small player from the vfl on last week's form Darcy Hogg would be my first choice.

We need to get him on the list first.
And that's not out of the question if he keeps developing.
He's been pretty solid.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I will dead set vomit if Evans ever plays a senior game for us again.

15 disposals, 3 goals, 6 score involvements....keep a bucket handy ;)  :D
Not AFL standard don't care what he does in the 2s (where he belongs). Never want to see him in the ones ever again.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #9 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Not AFL standard don't care what he does in the 2s (where he belongs). Never want to see him in the ones ever again.
At his size he doesn't seem to hold a trick that will hep him compete at AFL, at AFL level he's slower than most direct opponents who are also bigger and stronger than him and so he struggles to make the same amount of space.

I have no problems at all with his willingness to enter the contest, but is there anything Evans can offer in the long term that bigger heavier faster bodies like EH, Cincotta or Cottrell can't?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #10 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
If i could choose any small player from the vfl on last week's form Darcy Hogg would be my first choice.

We need to get him on the list first.
And that's not out of the question if he keeps developing.
He's been pretty solid.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I will dead set vomit if Evans ever plays a senior game for us again.

15 disposals, 3 goals, 6 score involvements....keep a bucket handy ;)  :D
I don't care about his VFL stats , he's not at AFL standard.
I'm with GIC.
The Roos are a Big danger IMO.
We need to endorse ensure we have enough pace in the team to go with them.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #11 –
Id be playing Lemmey and letting TDK can stay onball and ruck most of the day, when he has played as a tall forward it has never really worked and I want his ability as a midfielder to help us get on top in the clearances.
Cincotta for LDU and I dont want anyone who plays loose down back picking up Curtis. Id treat him as a 3rd tall forward rather than a small forward and prefer a taller stronger player on him rather than say Saad who has struggled with Keays who is a similar type. Id want to free Saad up and let him run and not have to worry about minding someone extra dangerous like Curtis.
Blues by 19 points....TDK, Cripps and Hewett to do their thing and I wouldnt be surprised to see Jack spend some time forward in this game...

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #12 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Id be playing Lemmey and letting TDK can stay onball and ruck most of the day, when he has played as a tall forward it has never really worked and I want his ability as a midfielder to help us get on top in the clearances.
Cincotta for LDU and I dont want anyone who plays loose down back picking up Curtis. Id treat him as a 3rd tall forward rather than a small forward and prefer a taller stronger player on him rather than say Saad who has struggled with Keays who is a similar type. Id want to free Saad up and let him run and not have to worry about minding someone extra dangerous like Curtis.
Blues by 19 points....TDK, Cripps and Hewett to do their thing and I wouldnt be surprised to see Jack spend some time forward in this game...

Curtis is a difficult match up for us and he has the ability to punish any momentary lapse in the defence.  Cincotta would be my preferred option but he’ll be required elsewhere. 
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #13 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Quote from: Lods – on

15 disposals, 3 goals, 6 score involvements....keep a bucket handy ;)  :D
I don't care about his VFL stats , he's not at AFL standard.
I'm with GIC.
The Roos are a Big danger IMO.
We need to endorse ensure we have enough pace in the team to go with them.

I'm not saying pick him.
What I'm saying is don't be surprised if he gets named when the team is announced. ;)

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne MCG

Reply #14 –
Assuming he is fit, in the absence of Harry and possibly Charlie, the correct opponent for Xerri is Pitto.

Pitto is as aggressive, mobile and as strong as Xerri.

Xerri can't go with TDK around the ground, and neither can the Norp 2nd ruck, when they actually attempt one it's Darling or Larkey which hurts them in F50.

I'd use Pitto in the centre and dropping behind play, and TDK around the ground and pushing into F50, let the mobile but lightly built Norp Mids deal with Cripps and TDK at ground level. This is basically how Freo eventually got the better of Norp. Freo let Sheezel and McDonald off the leash, or at least Freo wasn't able to curtail the pair, which kept Norp in the game off the back of Xerri dominating Darcy and Jackson at stoppages.

Xerri's tactic will again be to the stiff arm combined with some heavy pounding of TDK just like he did last time we played, although we were able to stop Shezeel and others having an influence.

I think Larkey will be even angier this time around, on top of his usual anger management issues. I also find having a few bigger bodies around tends to keep Zurhaar a lot quieter.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"