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Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #15 –
Quote from: pertz – on
Port beat the Giants in Canberra a few weeks ago.
We haven't beaten a decent team all year apart from the Cats who were napping at the time (pardon the pun).
Can't see us winning this, but then again who would know with this group?
We keep beating Geelong for some reason. Even managed to play 4 qtrs.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #16 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: pertz – on
Port beat the Giants in Canberra a few weeks ago.
We haven't beaten a decent team all year apart from the Cats who were napping at the time (pardon the pun).
Can't see us winning this, but then again who would know with this group?
We keep beating Geelong for some reason. Even managed to play 4 qtrs.
Can we put in a request to play Geel, NM, Ess and West Cost 6 times each next year?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #17 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
We cant beat the Adelaide teams at The AO nor can we beat an egg at the moment. Port may be flakey and rubbish but we are flakier and more rubbish so I give us no chance.
We actually thumped Port last year in Adelaide. The days our when last qtrs were very powerful.
 
Pity they returned the favour in Melbourne. We have one mighty 8 goal qtr, the rest crap and got run over. More familiar for us....lol.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #18 –
If we get a response and win this game I think it's a sugar hit type fake.

I guess need to start from somewhere...

Some are saying the club doesn't need to make irrational and big decisions in the offseason and will be measured and methodical.

They said that last time and hired an assistant coach that was sacked from his previous senior coaching gig.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #19 –
Quote from: pinot – on
If we get a response and win this game I think it's a sugar hit type fake.

Certainly will be. I expect a response but just for a week.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #20 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: pinot – on
If we get a response and win this game I think it's a sugar hit type fake.

Certainly will be. I expect a response but just for a week.
I really dont know what to expect. As ol mate Gattuso once said, "Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe s h i t"
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #21 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: pinot – on
If we get a response and win this game I think it's a sugar hit type fake.

Certainly will be. I expect a response but just for a week.
Agree, the heat is on the players as well as the coach and I expect a response especially given Port are similar to us in terms of consistency and effort.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #22 –
Based on our form on the last 12 months we are a sure thing to lose this.

Not sure why i keep hearing things like 'knowing us we will win this'  - who the hell have we beaten of any note in the last 12 months. Nadda. Fans need to stop thinking about the 2nd half of 2023 and focus on what we have done since which is F all.  

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #23 –
It's a little hard to believe the 'pile on' for at team sitting 10th on the ladder with a percentage of 105%.
You would think we were Fitzroy in their death throes.
But here we are.

It's probably a season defining, maybe career defining moment, for some.
Senior leaders have come out, saying 'they're the ones who have to take responsibility.'
(They seem to be saying it a bit this year.)
Well after the very public lashing they've received this week... there really is nowhere to hide.
They will look absolutlely silly if there isn't a strong response.
There can't be any weak lapses.
The talk just won't wash anymore.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #24 –
These guys don't do pressure.  The more pressure the more we crumble.  Its why we didnt win in round 1.

You reap what you sow, getting comfortable being uncomfortable might be the root cause.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #25 –
Boyd playing on a wing would be one selection for me. He is combative and can deliver to forwards.
Against North we allowed them to run in numbers and beat us up around the ball.
Ben Campo in the middle also if coaches are brave enough!

Will be interesting to see selections. Hopefully not just Evans back in!


Ab
 

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #26 –
I've thought about Boyd on the wing/half-forward role delivering to the forwards.

The thing about Boyd though, is that despite the high possession numbers he gets in the VFL a lot of them are from kick-ins or switching play with his fellow backs and sharing it around.
Earlier in the year it was Docherty, lately it's been Billy Wilson.
In those situations he often has time and space.
He can pick targets and his accuracy is pretty good.

Would he have that same freedom further up the ground?
I expect there would be considerably more pressure
The possessions would be more limited and the accuracy might not be as good.
If it's worth a try it might be better to see how it works at VFL level first.
Play him as a small forward even.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #27 –
I think one of our biggest problems, and also our most predictable weakness, is finding a role for Saad that leaves him free to make use of his heavily one-sided run.

It's just too easy for him to be corralled by the opposition, and that forces him into a soft disposal that often is a pre-cursor to the turnover.

Don't get me wrong, I love his ability and attack on the footy, he does the sacrificial things as well as anybody. But it's no good fans clapping his intercepts and attack at the footy if his next disposal puts a team-mate in the hospital zone.

Opposition actively create these scenarios, our MC needs to solve the puzzle.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #28 –
Quote from: LP – on
I think one of our biggest problems, and also our most predictable weakness, is finding a role for Saad that leaves him free to make use of his heavily one-sided run.

It's just too easy for him to be corralled by the opposition, and that forces him into a soft disposal that often is a pre-cursor to the turnover.

Don't get me wrong, I love his ability and attack on the footy, he does the sacrificial things as well as anybody. But it's no good fans clapping his intercepts and attack at the footy if his next disposal puts a team-mate in the hospital zone.

Opposition actively create these scenarios, our MC needs to solve the puzzle.

Yep
On the run he's great.
It's those 'hack-out kicks' when he is under pressure or cornered that often end up pretty costly.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
These guys don't do pressure.  The more pressure the more we crumble.  Its why we didnt win in round 1.

You reap what you sow, getting comfortable being uncomfortable might be the root cause.

God almighty if playing one of the bottom teams when we are close to full strength in round 1 is pressure our team cant handle we are well and truly screwed.

If the pressure of expectation against a bottom team is too much for this group good luck going deep into a season against the best opposition.

I wont bother discussing the pressure of playing a close GF as this list if it cant handle the above wont ever make it.