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Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #45 –
Quote from: laj – on
IN : Wilson, Boyd and both Youngs.

OUT : Binns, Carroll, Pitto, Durdin

Good.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #46 –
Interesting extend bench.  O'Farrell, pittonet and Corey durdin.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #47 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Interesting extend bench.  O'Farrell, pittonet and Corey durdin.

How many of them have made the flight over?
How many will come back ready for the VFL on saturday?
 

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #48 –
Quote from: laj – on
IN : Wilson, Boyd and both Youngs.

OUT : Binns, Carroll, Pitto, Durdin
Those outs weren’t responsible for the NM loss
Would’ve liked to have seen more heads roll

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #49 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Interesting extend bench.  O'Farrell, pittonet and Corey durdin.
HOF was OK in the maggos.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #50 –
Yeah my tip is young to be the sub on last weeks form (flynn).  Motlop starts, and HOF comes in if weiters doesn't get up.  Corey durdin would have to come in of cripps doesn't get up....
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #51 –
Our line-up:

B:  1 Jack Silvagni  23 Jacob Weitering  26 Nick Haynes
HB:  42 Adam Saad  37 Jordan Boyd  15 Sam Docherty
C:  36 Cooper Lord  9 Patrick Cripps  13 Blake Acres
HF:  39 Alex Cincotta  8 Lachie Fogarty  11 Mitch McGovern
F: 33 Lewis Young  30 Charlie Curnow  6 Zac Williams
R: 12 Tom De Koning  5 Adam Cerra  4 Oliver Hollands
Int:  35 Billy Wilson  29 George Hewett  45 Flynn Young  3 Jesse Motlop  14 Orazio Fantasia

Em:  22 Harry O'Farrell  27 Marc Pittonet  19 Corey Durdin

Interesting:
[1] Patrick Cripps - will he miss? If he was so sick to be isolated, he would be very unlikely in my mind. Who replaces him? That isn't clear at all. But I would be very surprised if he played the sort of game we need, as we need him at his best, He hasn't been there this year at all.
[2] Charlie Curnow - how fit is he? Charlie was awful last week, his body language hasn't been great all year, but last week was ... I don't want to think how bad it was. If he doesn't get goals before half time, he doesn't get any. And his kicking, which has been the difference more than once, has been very haphazard this year.
[3] Pitto was actually good early last week, but he always starts well and then drops away (well, in the last 18 months anyway). Having him out when they have a real ruck as a backup is questionable. But I can't see him coming in if Cripps or Curnow doesn't get up.
[4] Tom de Koning -  has he already gone? You couldn't say he hadn't last week. Sweet usually plays well against Tom. Last year Sweet rising was the difference at Marvel.
[5] Small forwards - are they going to have an impact? Last week Motlop was good when he came on; ten possessions in the last quarter. But he rarely performs 2 weeks in a row. Fog? His form has been ordinary of late. Durdin - deserved to be dropped. The great form he displayed in the month or so after his return was brilliant, but he hasn't had a kick in weeks. Should he come in for Cripps? I wouldn't do it. Fantasia - looked OK in patches and seemed to give a damn last week, but he rarely does 2 in a row either.
[6] Weitering - is he fit? Supposedly, he's pulled up well after last week, but he has ben struggling with niggles for ages. Do we play him on Georgiades, who is playing well and leading brilliantly? Georgiades might be too quick for Jack, who'll probably play on Visentini.
[7] Cincotta - last week was very ordinary. Do we play him on Butters or Rozee? I guess we have to, as he is the only tagger we've got. Last year he was a great success, but his form this year hasn't been much.
[8] Doc - last week he got a lot of the ball and wasn't a bad player, but his limitations were certainly obvious. Port do have speed in the forward line. I am happy to see Billy Wilson get a go: he does have some pace. But, where does that leave Doc?
[9] Port have a tall defence; he have to think and move the ball in intelligently, not just bomb it away, or we'll just turn the ball over. I am not thinking much of Young as a forward. Keep Port's talls accountable and we should kick a decent score. Last year, with Charlie moving well and us kicking it to him intelligently, he murdered the Port defence. When we lost control of the centre and started bombing it in long, the Port tall defenders killed us.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #52 –
Quote from: kruddler
Yep. Slow learners.

Rumours about weitering and whether or not he can get up with the ankle.
I said at the time to sub him out and be done with him and let him recover.
No, not us, not carlton. Play him, injure him more....then expect him to back up on a short week....and hope he doesn't get injured even more, because even if he does, it doesn't matter, you'll play him the following week anyway!

We've become a parady of ourselves....and its not funny.
From another thread>
I hope we don't play injured players. I've always been against, as the injured guys never reach their normal heights. I quite like it when the opposition do it, because I think it is something we can exploit. Unfortunately, we don't seen to exploit much these days. I still wouldn't play anyone suspect, especially as we need everyone at their best, not their worst.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #53 –
The hornet has a bung shoulder, if any of the usual Port suspects act up, I'd be testing it out and tell him so.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #54 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
The hornet has a bung shoulder, if any of the usual Port suspects act up, I'd be testing it out and tell him so.
We've nobody on our list that will do that sort of stuff other than accidentally, we suffer attacks we do not inflict them.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #55 –
I don't feel at all pessimistic about this game. In recent years we've seldom put two 'stinkers' in back-to-back. This'll be a real good test of character, especially considering all the troubling media attention (deserved) that we're experiencing of late.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #56 –
I don't think we'll win. The external hate and speculation merry-go-round, players injured or underdone, interstate, 5 day turnaround. A win will be a bridge too far IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #57 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I don't feel at all pessimistic about this game. In recent years we've seldom put two 'stinkers' in back-to-back. This'll be a real good test of character, especially considering all the troubling media attention (deserved) that we're experiencing of late.
My worry is, that we are simply bringing in new blood to up the enthusiasm, maybe give a sugar hit.

Thing is, this will only last a short period, and then that will wane.

One of the issues that I can see, is that this is looking like hard work, and not much fun right now, and whilst bringing in some youthful exuberance will give everyone a bit of a pep, its not going to result in a good turnaround.

This weekend is a soft target, honourable loss wont hurt.  A big loss would be devastating, and then we have a win which will simply mask everything until next week.

Collingwood could be a coach killer next week.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #58 –
Dropped kids instead of asking questions about the real problems, again.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #59 –
The thing is the kids arent setting the world on fire.  M. Carroll is ok, if you want someone who gets uncontested ball off half back.  I thought Binns was alright, but clearly didnt do what he was expected to (which might have been to hold position out wide, rather than get sucked into contests). 

Ultimately, I think Voss is trying to balance the number of debutants we have in the team, and when I say that, I dont just mean first year players, I mean guys like Cooper Lord, Corey Durdin, and Jesse Motlop.  Its fine to play a few of them at once, but then adding Flynn Young, and Billy Wilson is a bit of a sink or swim demoralising thing for the rest of the team. 

We complain about the load not being spread, and the game plan being no good, but you cant expect players to play in a team and have the appropriate cohesion with their teamates, when theyve played less than 50 games for the club.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson