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AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Ready for tonight.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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A very sad night. Sad for the Carlton Football Club, sad for an icon of the game in Michael Voss, sad for us long suffering Carlton supporters who will have to endure yet again, a new coach, a new start, a mini list rebuild, and many, many more years in the wilderness as an insignificant football. Its going to be a long road gaining any semblance of respect.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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There is absolutely nothing to gain from sacking Voss now.

We have to pay him out. We are not making finals. So why do it now?

Its a good time to find out a lot about the players.

For instance, tonight, plenty of players have 'given up'....but some, like Ollie Hollands is going as hard as ever.

Even Charlie has upped his tackling game. In the last 8 weeks, he's managed 6 tackles.
He's already got 5 tonight, with 5 minutes left.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #3 –
Ollie is made of the right stuff, only need 23 more.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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Quote from: Professer E – on
Ollie is made of the right stuff, only need 23 more.
Why do you say that, I thought he had a quiet night (like the bulk of his team mates).
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #5 –
Mentality.  Workrate.  Effort.

Its almost like he was mentored by Kade simpson or something....

:D
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #6 –
One of the more embarrassing defeats I've witnessed.  :'(  :'(
Not much to write about, even if we did win the last half. Curnow missing from easy distances time and again. Us mucking up another goal having two players open and Charlie can't it to them. Then McGovern makes one of the worst misses in history. McGovern's kicking was appalling tonight.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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Quote from: kruddler – on
There is absolutely nothing to gain from sacking Voss now.

We have to pay him out. We are not making finals. So why do it now?

Its a good time to find out a lot about the players.

For instance, tonight, plenty of players have 'given up'....but some, like Ollie Hollands is going as hard as ever.

Even Charlie has upped his tackling game. In the last 8 weeks, he's managed 6 tackles.
He's already got 5 tonight, with 5 minutes left.
From what I gather we only have to pay him out 6 months no matter when we sack him these days. 

May as well rip the band aid off otherwise we get this crap for the last 8 matches. Tough for Vossy but what's the choice. At least he gave us a thrill for a short period of his tenure.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #8 –
Had both teams kicked straighter they would have won by 70 points, but we could have been much closer if we hadn't missed set shots directly in front of goal.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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Port had 6 of the top 7 possessions getters.
Our best was George, and he had a shocker. Still had 21  possessions, 9 tackles and 5 clearances.
Charlie Curnow got the ball reasonably well in patches, but his kicking was diabolical! Couldn't hit a target to save his life! 5 tackles is a big improvement, but things couldn't have gone worse for him.

Ollie Hollands, Zac Williams and Nick Haynes; 18 possessions and you wanted it. You can stand tall.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #10 –
Good night all……….🙁
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #11 –
Voss should see out the year, but that's it. If we sack him, we might get a week or two of dead cat bounce, but we hurt our brand in the search for our next coach. We have to make the place somewhere a decent coach would want to come.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #12 –
A bunch of our players study psychology, I wonder if they learn about hypochondria?

I'd be locking up all the copies of the DSM, I suspect they been reading it a bit too much!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #13 –
I watched Voss pre-game, and looking at his and the teams body language through the game, even in the early stages of the 1st-Qtr.

I suspect he's already got the message, it's the only thing that explains it from a whole of team perspective.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: AFL Rd 16 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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It'll never be written but the "untold, behind the scenes story" of Carlton's 2025 would be fascinating reading.
I'm convinced there are things going on within the playing/ coaching group that are having dramatic effects on performance.

So it's time for some hard decisions.
But a lot of them are list decisions that can wait a few more weeks.
I'm with Kruds.
This felt a bit like Ratten's last game
But sacking Voss at this stage would only be a 'sacrificial offering' to please the masses.

Even though finals may still be a statistical possibility it's a fantasy, and would have a nightmare end should we make it.
Time to play the list...Lemmey's, Camporeales, O'Farrell, give Wilson and Young a few more games.
Not all at once, but over the period.
If any surgeries are needed  prioritise them and get any major ones out of the way so they are ready for the pre-season.
Rest players with the niggly injuries.