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Re: AFL Rd 17 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #15
I shudder to think about this game. If we play like last night we will get shredded!
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #16
I shudder to think about this game. If we play like last night we will get shredded!
Get the recycling bin out then coz youre gonna fill it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 17 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #17
play man on man for 3 Q old fashion way need to make coll players accountable no room ,flood there fwd line no space , and in last Q we out run them ,like a well timed racehorse .

Re: AFL Rd 17 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #18
play man on man for 3 Q old fashion way need to make coll players accountable no room ,flood there fwd line no space , and in last Q we out run them ,like a well timed racehorse .
Think we have to hope its a wet day and stoppage fest where Cripps, Hewett etc can dominate, any running style of game will see us cooked at 1/4 time. Port ran us ragged and exhausted our petrol tickets to the point we gave up chasing and then just did what they liked, they throttled back in the last and cruised but we were so cooked it didnt matter.
Id be starting Flynn Young and playing Lemmey at FF and Charlie at CHF so the latter can run around and play a bit of a Jeremy Cameron style game, Lemmey's task would be to prevent Moore from intercepting everything and dragging him out of the play and if he kicks a couple of goals then thats a bonus.
Ben Campo to come in too, Id rest Acres, he is cooked and needs a rest, Id have BenC follow Sidebottom around for educational purposes.

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Reply #19
We agree on one thing at least - Acres needs to be sent out for whatever op he needs because he has deadset stunk.  Im not sure of his contract situation but I'd think long and hard about renewing it.
Saad would be close to running around at Willy next week too if he had any awareness whatsoever. 
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #20
We agree on one thing at least - Acres needs to be sent out for whatever op he needs because he has deadset stunk.  Im not sure of his contract situation but I'd think long and hard about renewing it.
Saad would be close to running around at Willy next week too if he had any awareness whatsoever. 

Few rumours around that this might be Saad's last year.
If he went out for concussion he won't be playing anyway

 

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Reply #21
We had a lot of senior players have poor games last night:
[1] Jacob Weitering, who didn't look close to fit. He might be better after a slightly longer break, but he struggled last night.
[2] Blake Acres, who hasn't really been fit his year. He was ordinary and had only 11 possessions. He needs to be fixed, so he's ready for 2026.
[3] Jack Silvagni, who played his worst game for the year. He really struggled to get near the ball on an important night for the Silvagni name.
[4] Mitch McGovern, who had the night from Hell. If our kicking into the forward line wasn't bad enough (and it wasn't good), when he finally got the ball he shanked like the ads on TV. Missing gettable goals from simple shots is heart breaking.
[5] Adam Saad - the concussion protocols might be a blessing in disguise, as Saady has been struggling. Give him a break and he will be better for it.
[6] Lachie Fogarty had a night from Hell. His decision making was awful, as was his kicking when he finally got his hands on the ball.'
[7] Tom de Koning was thrashed in the ruck by Sweet and Visentini, who did what rucks are supposed to do, give their mids first use. Tom didn't. He didn't take many marks and his kicking was atrocious.
[8] Charlie Curnow: There were some good signs from Charlie, like his willingness to chase and tackle, but his kicking, usually elite, was excremental and didn't get close to targets.
[9] Orazio Fantasia had a few nice minutes late in the game, but when the game was there to be won, he wasn't there. And he missed easy goals as well.
[10] George Hewett had his worst game of the year. He struggled to get near the ball. At least he tackled; he had 9 of them.
[11] Patrick Cripps also struggled, which was no surprise when he was sick all week. However, his ruck work was more effective than Tom's was.
[12] Lewis Young: what was he doing? he offered nothing as a forward, a defender or a ruckman. At least he kicked our 1st goal, our only 1st half goal!

That is more than half of our team!
At least Haynes can hold his head up; he did a fine job. Can he play next season? I hope so.
Doc tried, but wasn't very effective.
Ollie Hollands and Zac Williams weren't that bad either. Voting is going to very difficult this week!

We would need a huge turnaround from these guys to be competitive against Collingwood, which I just cannot see at the moment. But we should be looking at replacing some of the 12 guys I mentioned, as they were issues at the moment.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #22
The best teams plan and plan everything to the finest detail.
They may start resting players, but whoever the players are that go out there will go at 100%, nothing is sure because the players on the fringe of selection are battling for a spot!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #23
The best teams plan and plan everything to the finest detail.
They may start resting players, but whoever the players are that go out there will go at 100%, nothing is sure because the players on the fringe of selection are battling for a spot!

Id rather face their A team who are training hard prepping for the business end of the year, than the fringe types looking to get in.

Those types will crucify us because they can sense a premiership.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #24
We agree on one thing at least - Acres needs to be sent out for whatever op he needs because he has deadset stunk.  Im not sure of his contract situation but I'd think long and hard about renewing it.
Saad would be close to running around at Willy next week too if he had any awareness whatsoever. 

Few rumours around that this might be Saad's last year.
If he went out for concussion he won't be playing anyway
contracted for next year so I doubt it, but players retire early all the time.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #25
contracted for next year so I doubt it, but players retire early all the time.
Force his hand, he is cooked.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 17 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #26
The best teams plan and plan everything to the finest detail.
They may start resting players, but whoever the players are that go out there will go at 100%, nothing is sure because the players on the fringe of selection are battling for a spot!

I want for us to meet Rottingwood at their best.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #27
We had a lot of senior players have poor games last night:
[1] Jacob Weitering, who didn't look close to fit. He might be better after a slightly longer break, but he struggled last night. He did not look engaged or passionate at any stage last night, or in recent games.
[2] Blake Acres, who hasn't really been fit his year. He was ordinary and had only 11 possessions. He needs to be fixed, so he's ready for 2026. Hard to send him away for repairs, he does give his all, even with the shizen disposals
[3] Jack Silvagni, who played his worst game for the year. He really struggled to get near the ball on an important night for the Silvagni name. Looked lost and dispirited
[4] Mitch McGovern, who had the night from Hell. If our kicking into the forward line wasn't bad enough (and it wasn't good), when he finally got the ball he shanked like the ads on TV. Missing gettable goals from simple shots is heart breaking. Was woeful
[5] Adam Saad - the concussion protocols might be a blessing in disguise, as Saady has been struggling. Give him a break and he will be better for it. Yep, then let him off the leash to do what running half backs do. Stupid to ask him to be a lock-down defender, and a waste.
[6] Lachie Fogarty had a night from Hell. His decision making was awful, as was his kicking when he finally got his hands on the ball.' Good Magoos player. When he can't get a game, we're making progress.
[7] Tom de Koning was thrashed in the ruck by Sweet and Visentini, who did what rucks are supposed to do, give their mids first use. Tom didn't. He didn't take many marks and his kicking was atrocious. Checked out. Seemed angry.
[8] Charlie Curnow: There were some good signs from Charlie, like his willingness to chase and tackle, but his kicking, usually elite, was excremental and didn't get close to targets. He was engaged and got amongst it, about bloody time.
[9] Orazio Fantasia had a few nice minutes late in the game, but when the game was there to be won, he wasn't there. And he missed easy goals as well. One of our few small forwards who seemed almost, semi dangerous.
[10] George Hewett had his worst game of the year. He struggled to get near the ball. At least he tackled; he had 9 of them. If effort and spirit for the contest amount to anything, this bloke was, and remains, a bloody ripper.
[11] Patrick Cripps also struggled, which was no surprise when he was sick all week. However, his ruck work was more effective than Tom's was. Should not have put his hand up to play - selfish and poor leadership and understanding of what he could really offer
[12] Lewis Young: what was he doing? he offered nothing as a forward, a defender or a ruckman. At least he kicked our 1st goal, our only 1st half goal!

That is more than half of our team!
At least Haynes can hold his head up; he did a fine job. Can he play next season? I hope so. Showed bona fide leadership qualities, must play next year and be in the leadership group.
Doc tried, but wasn't very effective. Must retire to lead the Magoos, now. His panicky kicks under pressure are a huge liability and deflate the group.
Ollie Hollands and Zac Williams weren't that bad either. Agree. Voting is going to very difficult this week!

We would need a huge turnaround from these guys to be competitive against Collingwood, which I just cannot see at the moment. But we should be looking at replacing some of the 12 guys I mentioned, as they were issues at the moment. Yep.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #28
All I want for Christmas are two half forwards that can spot a player on the lead and hit the target.

We actually have a few - Cottrell, Smith, E Hollands, Young.

It's true injuries/rehab have killed us in this part of the game.. but still no excuse to not persist with others in this critical role. Boyd, Carroll, Moir are good kicks of the football... there is no excuse kicking the can down the road and not trying to fill this important role despite players missing.

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Reply #29
All I want for Christmas are two half forwards that can spot a player on the lead and hit the target.

We actually have a few - Cottrell, Smith, E Hollands, Young.

It's true injuries/rehab have killed us in this part of the game.. but still no excuse to not persist with others in this critical role. Boyd, Carroll, Moir are good kicks of the football... there is no excuse kicking the can down the road and not trying to fill this important role despite players missing.

Wow, well said. Glad you included Flynn Young... this kid is much better than many may realise.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17