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Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #135 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
One has to legitimately wonder if there exists a Guinness World Records entry for lost players. The number of Carlton coaches that seem to "lose the players" is staggering, not only for the frequency with which it it occurs, but the brief time period between occurrences. Every few years, we hear about losing the players. Pagan, Malthouse, Teague, Bolton, now Voss. They don't seem to get lost at other clubs.
3 of them had/have genuinely lost them, and yes, we do hold the world record for that....lol.

After listening to the Lachie Henderson i'm not inclined to blame Malthouse. The whole place, he said, was toxic, and they way players were treated was something awful, and he wasn't talking about Mick. Said he couldn't wait to get out of the place. Pagan, did lose them badly, the game just flew past him and he couldn't adapt, but, he also made mention about how toxic the place was when he was there. Real toxic. Teague didn't lose them but performances just dribbled off. Only lost by more than 5 goals twice during his reign. There was alot coming out about issues in the club in the media when his term was coming to his end. While Bolton lost them badly i'm guessing it was pretty toxic then too. Ratts was still probably the most successful given he got us to 3 successive finals series after and highly improved 2008. Maybe we looked after our own more given it was Ratts. 2012 was starting to look like the Carlton we currently know though. Liked to have seen though if it was just a bad year, like Richmong in 2016, or just what we've regularly seen since 2001.

A combination of a bad club, as you once said,  a couple of bad coaching appointments combined with a culture that has tended to stink. We have had 5 coaching changes and god knows how many list overhauls since 2001 for not alot of change. So that says alot about the club itself. This current lot needs it's light bulb moment before they find their careers wasted by achieving nothing.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #136 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If the players have even a morsel of respect for Vossy, they will do the job for him tomorrow night.
Nup, I have tipped Brisbane by 51pts.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #137 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
TDK would’ve signed by now if he was staying. We are not in finals contention. Why would he not be dropped for rhe remainder of the season? What are the pros and cons.

Personally I feel affronted that we put time into him and even gave his mum even a little platform
With McKays mum etc - and now he’s leaving, absolutely his prerogative to chase $500k more over 7 years but I just think he’s done so let’s move on now with others.

Also is $500k x  7 years really worth leaving Carlton? I could understand if Sts were a finals bound club but they’re not - maybe they have the young talent that’ll come thru with him…

Anyway it’s been a poor year and I’m looking forward to sorting out this crape and getting on with playing and winning footy games again!

Multiplied outand that is 3.5 million. Alot! Plus, I don't want to be paying 1.2 million to keep him. He's good but certainly not close to that good.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #138 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
If the players have even a morsel of respect for Vossy, they will do the job for him tomorrow night.
Dont expect them to win given we dont have much to play for but just compete for 4 quarters and dont give up and embarrass the club. Hopefully Brisbane think its just a holiday to Melbourne and havent put much preparation in and are as half ar$ed as we usually are. Unfortunately I dont think even a miracle win will change much and the wheels of change are in motion.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #139 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
(What was the big Supertramp hit from 1975? Maybe that's me at this moment).  ;)  ;)

You're nothing but a "Dreamer" Baggers
 ;)  :D


And the winner is... Principal LODS. Your prize? A gift hamper featuring your very own copy of a DVD of last Friday night's game!!  ;D  ;D
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #140 –
In: A.Cincotta, C.Durdin
Out: B.Acres (omitted), F.Evans (omitted)

R17 sub: Flynn Young
 

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #141 –
Hard to know what to make of the Acres decision. Certainly has been in poor form, like most of his team mates, but his effort and work rate is huge.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #142 –
I just do not get the fixation with Durdin. Another Vossy fave? The kid can tackle... the end.

And, FFS, start Flynn Young.

Hopefully Cinc lines up on C Cameron. And Motlop stays deep in the forward line.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #143 –
Not much point playing well in the VFL if you are not going to get a go in an underperforming AFL side. When do they work out doing the same thing, and playing the same players, week in week out is unlikely to change the result. Cerra, TDK, Docherty,  Fantasia, McGovern and Fogarty, are all lucky to be in the side.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #144 –
Just looking at the selections it looks a bit like they're letting this one go through to the keeper.
I think we might see a few debuts against Melbourne next week.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #145 –
They could have made change after change after change but no.

Maybe they don't want to ruin the chances of the twos by putting the seniors in there not trying....lol.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #146 –
Fogarty would want to get a kick this week
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #147 –
With a forward line of Motlop - Moir (FF) - Fantasia, the ball might need to be kicked in at a slightly lower trajectory than usual !
Ab

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #148 –
Our line-up:
B:  39 Alex Cincotta  23 Jacob Weitering  4 Oliver Hollands
HB:  2 Lachlan Cowan  26 Nick Haynes  15 Sam Docherty
C:  32 Matthew Carroll  9 Patrick Cripps  6 Zac Williams
HF: 11 Mitch McGovern  30 Charlie Curnow  8 Lachie Fogarty
F:  3 Jesse Motlop  43 Ashton Moir  14 Orazio Fantasia
R:  12 Tom De Koning  5 Adam Cerra  29 George Hewett
Int:  27 Marc Pittonet  45 Flynn Young  36 Cooper Lord  22 Harry O'Farrell  19 Corey Durdin

Em:  13 Blake Acres  44 Francis Evans  31 Harry Lemmey

My comments:
[1] Acres needs a rest; he has struggled all year with injury and form. I wouldn't have dropped him, I'd have him sent off to get fixed, properly, so he can start pre-season in decent shape. He is so important to us that we can't afford then output we've had from this year. Get him right!
[2] I understand Evans missing out, but Fogarty and Fantasia must be thinking their lucky stars. They really need to stand up tomorrow night after their ordinary efforts of late.
Nor are they alone: Tom de Koning is going through one of the worst periods in his career and really needs to step up.
[3] I note that McInerney is in for Brisbane; he has played dominant football against us recently, giving his mids first use of the ball. Neither Tom nor Pitto have been able to beat him, although both have had good quarters or halves. Fort isn't in McInerney's class; if he does most of the rucking, that is a good thing for us.
[4] Charlie: he hasn't kicked a goal in 3 weeks and really needs to stand up.
For that matter, we need someone to keep Harris Andrews out of the game. If we allow him just to zone off and pick up marks, we're toast.
[5] I note with interest that Lemmey is named as one of our Emergencies. Not quite sure what that means, but it may indicate that he isn't far away from getting a game.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #149 –
A rampaging Brisbane at Marvel, I give us no chance. As long as we crack in and tackle hard for 4 qtrs and dont get blown away, I'll be happy. I dont want to see our customary qtr of nothingness where we lose the game in 20-30 mins.
Hopefully our leaders can show some kent and lift like Vossy did when he played.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership