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Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #30 –
WTF is it with Boyd not being picked!!??

I went to the VFL game thought he was pretty good, as imposing as any of our Carlton players particularly VFL get!

Personally was more impressed and noticed Will more than Wilson who to me seemed to take too long to make decisions. White seemed to work hard. IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #31 –
Our line-up:

Carlton:
B: 26 Nick Haynes   23 Jacob Weitering   42 Adam Saad
HB:   2 Lachlan Cowan   22 Harry O'Farrell   15 Sam Docherty
C:   43 Ashton Moir   9 Patrick Cripps  5 Adam Cerra
HF:   45 Flynn Young   30 Charlie Curnow  8 Lachie Fogarty
F:   3 Jesse Motlop   12 Tom De Koning   6 Zac Williams
R:   27 Marc Pittonet  29 George Hewett   4 Oliver Hollands
Int:   32 Matthew Carroll   44 Francis Evans   19 Corey Durdin   38 Will White   36 Cooper Lord
EM:   37 Jordan Boyd   13 Blake Acres   40 Hudson O'Keeffe

I must admit, I look at this line-up and I scratch my head. I'm just not sure what we're trying to do. It might be a bit windy on Saturday night, but ...
[1] I am surprised that Billy Wilson didn't get a guernsey. He was very good last week. Others, like White, impressed less.
[2] Tom as  forward; I know we're terribly short of marking targets (and McMahon is kicking goals for Essendon), but Tom's form has been faecal. I just don't see him getting back into form as a key forward.
That said, Pitto has been good in recent weeks. It certainly hasn't been his fault that we've been so ordinary.
I am pleased to see two rucks against Gawn, who often plays well against us.
[3] Blake Acres is supposedly going to totally rested this weekend. He is not expected to play at any level. There is some noise saying that he's looking elsewhere. I don't know if I want to believe that. I'd much rather getting him fit for 2026.
[4] I can understand why we selected Evans; he's done well in the VFL. However, there are others, like Fog, who haven't made any impact all year. Why are they getting games?
[5] Boyd: I have no idea what is happening with him, but he could have been very useful.
[6] Who are we going to play on Petracca? or Pickett?
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #32 –
Acres seemed so lacklustre in the VFL game, there was not much spirit from him at all.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #33 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Acres seemed so lacklustre in the VFL game, there was not much spirit from him at all.
He's always seemed to me to be a square peg in a round hole. Seems to march to the beat of his own drum, e.g doesnt warm up on ground with his team mates pregame. Something NQR to me.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #34 –
Then don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.  He was dropped for a reason, and if he wants back in, find some form.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #35 –
Acres is apparently on the way out.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Acres seemed so lacklustre in the VFL game, there was not much spirit from him at all.
He's always seemed to me to be a square peg in a round hole. Seems to march to the beat of his own drum, e.g doesnt warm up on ground with his team mates pregame. Something NQR to me.
I would agree. He seems to have lost interest.
Reality always wins in the end.
 

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #37 –
Are we trying to break our own world record of seeing how many small forwards we can squeeze into 1 side?

Motlop
Williams
Fogarty
Durdin
White
F.Young
Evans
Moir

Thank f*** fantasia got himself injured otherwise we'd find a spot for him as well.

The only way any of this males sense is if we are trying to do a dodgy and not trigger some players contract bonuses and/or extensions.
Eg if player x plays xx amount of games he gets this amount of money as a bonus or he gets an extra year added to his current contract.

They realise that tanking doesnt really benefit us when the hawks have our 1st round pick, yeah?

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #38 –
Why oh why wouldn't we be playing Harry Lemmey?
Even if just to keep a key defender away from Charlie C.  Surely the time  to try Lemmey at AFL level is when Harry McKay is out injured?
Is it time to arrange a members poll?

Ab

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #39 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
The only way any of this males sense is if we are trying to do a dodgy and not trigger some players contract bonuses and/or extensions.
Eg if player x plays xx amount of games he gets this amount of money as a bonus or he gets an extra year added to his current contract.

That would be really 'dodgy', pretty obvious,  and get other players concerned about their own 'triggers'.

I get the feeling a lot of decisions have already been made.
Boyd, Cinncotta, Lemmey, Acres may not attract a lot in terms of trade, very low picks...but they are 'tradeable'.
Each possess some skills that might see other clubs finding a role for them or believing they can use those attributes and get a bit more out of them...overlooking any deficiencies or inconsistencies.
No need to expose them further.

Many of the other fringe players who are getting a game might just be being picked as a final "look-see".

Winning is no longer a priority,
Sportsbet have finally conceded we can't win it and removed us from the premiership betting  :( , but teams may be being picked to minimise any losses...no huge blow-outs.

But honestly, it's all just guesses.


Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #40 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
The only way any of this males sense is if we are trying to do a dodgy and not trigger some players contract bonuses and/or extensions.
Eg if player x plays xx amount of games he gets this amount of money as a bonus or he gets an extra year added to his current contract.

That would be really 'dodgy', pretty obvious,  and get other players concerned about their own 'triggers'.

I get the feeling a lot of decisions have already been made.
Boyd, Cinncotta, Lemmey, Acres may not attract a lot in terms of trade, very low


picks...but they are 'tradeable'.
Each possess some skills that might see other clubs finding a role for them or believing they can use those attributes and

get a bit more out of them...overlooking any deficiencies or inconsistencies.
No need to expose them further.



Many of the other fringe players who are getting a game might just be being picked as a final "look-see".


Winning is no longer a priority,
Sportsbet have finally conceded we can't win
it and removed us from the premiership betting  :( , but teams may be being picked to
 minimise any losses...no huge blow-outs

But honestly, it's all just guesses.

Agree Lods.
It's a complete mystery what's going on at selection, we're only guessing.
I think Melbourne will tear us a new one tomorrow night.
We have an average team in who are not playing well.
Gawn, Petracca and co will be licking their lips, time for some payback.



Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #41 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
The only way any of this males sense is if we are trying to do a dodgy and not trigger some players contract bonuses and/or extensions.
Eg if player x plays xx amount of games he gets this amount of money as a bonus or he gets an extra year added to his current contract.

That would be really 'dodgy', pretty obvious,  and get other players concerned about their own 'triggers'.

I get the feeling a lot of decisions have already been made.
Boyd, Cinncotta, Lemmey, Acres may not attract a lot in terms of trade, very low picks...but they are 'tradeable'.
Each possess some skills that might see other clubs finding a role for them or believing they can use those attributes and get a bit more out of them...overlooking any deficiencies or inconsistencies.
No need to expose them further.

Many of the other fringe players who are getting a game might just be being picked as a final "look-see".

Winning is no longer a priority,
Sportsbet have finally conceded we can't win it and removed us from the premiership betting  :( , but teams may be being picked to minimise any losses...no huge blow-outs.

But honestly, it's all just guesses.


Suspect this is so, Principal LODS. Shame. Obviously not looking to 2026.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #42 –
Fan commentary is blind to long term decisions about who will be at the club in 2026. We often assume that decision will be made only after seeing more of a player at senior level, we demand opportunities for the unknowns(unknown to us) but in most cases and for many players, a career starts and ends at training.

If players compete head to head at training for limited spots, and continually lose that contest, you'll never see them at AFL level short of a circumstance where there is no contest, like when injuries abound.

Like F1, the first person you have to better is your own teammate!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #43 –
Quote from: Adelaideblue – on
Why oh why wouldn't we be playing Harry Lemmey?
Even if just to keep a key defender away from Charlie C.  Surely the time  to try Lemmey at AFL level is when Harry McKay is out injured?
Is it time to arrange a members poll?

Ab

Watch Essendon last night.  Remember that Liam McMahon>Harry Lemmey (based on performances at VFL level).

McMahon kicked two goals from 5 posessions and one Tackle and one mark.

One of the goals of which was a free that wasn't there. 

Odds are, we will get that performance out of Lemmey, without the not there free kick. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 19 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: Adelaideblue – on
Why oh why wouldn't we be playing Harry Lemmey?
Even if just to keep a key defender away from Charlie C.  Surely the time  to try Lemmey at AFL level is when Harry McKay is out injured?
Is it time to arrange a members poll?

Ab

Watch Essendon last night.  Remember that Liam McMahon>Harry Lemmey (based on performances at VFL level).

McMahon kicked two goals from 5 posessions and one Tackle and one mark.

One of the goals of which was a free that wasn't there. 

Odds are, we will get that performance out of Lemmey, without the not there free kick. 
McMahon is a finisher, put him in a decent team who can give him supply and he will be a handy player because he is an elite kick for goal.
His lack of second efforts and defensive prowess don't make him suitable for a lot of struggling teams and he is going to have to improve that side of his game quick to stay on the bombers senior list.