AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

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Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #15 – August 16, 2025, 10:31:40 pm

Quote from: MickyO – on August 16, 2025, 09:09:52 pm

Quote from: laj – on August 16, 2025, 08:50:02 pm

No ones is going to blame him for going for that amount of coin. I'm sure he'd like to stay but one has to make the most of their chances financially too.
No, sorry, I disagree.

TDK does not strike me as a ‘I was born confident’ type like Harley Reid nor as marketable and dynamic and match winning as Buddy. It’s a lot of money and he will be heavily scrutinised for the rest of his career.

We act as though AFL players don’t get paid very very very well. And Carlton has offered TDK a hell of a sum - they have the best financial people around to assist, that can easily turn what Carlton would give him into more money and Opportunities.

I think he’s making a mistake. He seems like a nice fella but I won’t wish him well -
The whole thing with SOS and Stk has left a really bad taste in my mouth.

not many are knocking back.1.7 mil a year. You're a long time retired and you have to make the most of your financial security when you can. Put yourself in his shoes. What would you do? Guessing the same. The fact is when free agents leave their club to come here we wrap our arms around them. If you do.that then.you have to accept players leave too.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #16 – August 16, 2025, 11:08:31 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 16, 2025, 08:52:50 pm

As for Weiters, he needs to trust his other defenders and worry about his man. Too often he splits the two key fwds hoping to 1/2 cover both and it fails. One of the commentators last week suggested he might have to drop a few kgs over the summer to get some mobility, I agree.

He was able to get away with it when he was partnered with Jones because Jones had closing speed to burn but, regardless, Weiters doesn't have the acceleration or mobility that he used to have.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #17 – August 17, 2025, 07:19:01 am

I think one of the great stories out of this train-wreck of a year is George Hewett.

He was absolutely sensational yesterday, and has consistently performed right throughout the year. Would have to be a mile in front of our B&F.

Makes me think back to the middle of last year when he was 'managed' for a few games, which corresponded with us losing all momentum.

Amazing how the guys who fly under the radar can surprise the most. Reminds me a bit of Brett Ratten.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #18 – August 17, 2025, 08:16:31 am

Quote from: tonyo – on August 17, 2025, 07:19:01 am

I think one of the great stories out of this train-wreck of a year is George Hewett.

He was absolutely sensational yesterday, and has consistently performed right throughout the year. Would have to be a mile in front of our B&F.

Makes me think back to the middle of last year when he was 'managed' for a few games, which corresponded with us losing all momentum.

Amazing how the guys who fly under the radar can surprise the most. Reminds me a bit of Brett Ratten.

George apparently trains with exactly the same intensity that he plays. He is the consummate professional is is rarely injured. He is a very important cog in our wheel, remove Charlie from the leadership group and get this guy and Haynes in.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #19 – August 17, 2025, 09:18:50 am

Supercoach rankings

Harry 187
Zac 130
Hewett 128
Cripps 122
Walsh 112
Evans 104
TDK 103
Haynes 102

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #20 – August 17, 2025, 09:36:52 am

Quote from: tonyo – on August 17, 2025, 07:19:01 am

I think one of the great stories out of this train-wreck of a year is George Hewett.

He was absolutely sensational yesterday, and has consistently performed right throughout the year. Would have to be a mile in front of our B&F.

Makes me think back to the middle of last year when he was 'managed' for a few games, which corresponded with us losing all momentum.

Amazing how the guys who fly under the radar can surprise the most. Reminds me a bit of Brett Ratten.

Well said, T.

In a year of inconsistency, disappointment, failure and false dawns/promises there has been one reliable, dependable and constant performer - Georgie.

And a few emerging, potential bright lights for the future including Cooper Lord, Lachie Cowan, the old bloke Nick Haynes, Carroll, HOF and dare I say... Frankie!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #21 – August 17, 2025, 10:15:33 am

Had to work yesterday & was completely buggered when I eventually got home so haven't seen anything of the game.

Will try and watch the first half to get a sense of who did what but it looks like a complete performance.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #22 – August 17, 2025, 10:42:58 am

I think Carroll is a good hybrid size and could end up a real player and his kicking is a weapon, but he needs to win or halve more one on one aerial contests if he going to become a 'bankable' player. If you commit to a ball in the air you have to mark it, spoil it or otherwise kill the contest or you're trouble on the last line. Maybe it's just an inexperience thing. Saw some stuff from Saad I didn't like either - tackle or block - just don't stand there and get stepped.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #23 – August 17, 2025, 11:25:59 am

Fair points Prof, Carroll is a young player who needs to tidy up some loose ends in his game, this "should" come with some stroing coaching & disciplines.

As for Saad, I put a line through his name some weeks back. I always thought his incredible burst of legspeed and pinpoint kicking made him look better than he really was. Now that he doesn't have that burst of speed like he used to, his lack of a defensive mindset is fully exposed to the extent that he is fast becoming a liablity in defence.

Way too loose, let's his direct opponent do whatever he likes plus looks like he doesn't care any more either.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #24 – August 17, 2025, 11:28:46 am

Quote from: tonyo – on August 17, 2025, 07:19:01 am

I think one of the great stories out of this train-wreck of a year is George Hewett.

He was absolutely sensational yesterday, and has consistently performed right throughout the year. Would have to be a mile in front of our B&F.

Not taking anything away from George but he took full advantage of increased playing time (especially in the midfield role) resulting from from the club discarding Matt Kennedy, the reduced availability of Walsh and comparative down-year by Cripps

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #25 – August 17, 2025, 03:08:21 pm

worst game plan in the league how easy did a struggling port carve us up with quick ball movement hitting up there fwds on the chest compare to ours always hard work ,Game style plan has to change for 26

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #26 – August 17, 2025, 03:40:56 pm

Quote from: pew2 – on August 17, 2025, 03:08:21 pm

worst game plan in the league how easy did a struggling port carve us up with quick ball movement hitting up there fwds on the chest compare to ours always hard work ,Game style plan has to change for 26

Ill happily argue there are 6 teams with worse game plans than us.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #27 – August 17, 2025, 03:52:22 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 17, 2025, 03:40:56 pm

Quote from: pew2 – on August 17, 2025, 03:08:21 pm
worst game plan in the league how easy did a struggling port carve us up with quick ball movement hitting up there fwds on the chest compare to ours always hard work ,Game style plan has to change for 26
Ill happily argue there are 6 teams with worse game plans than us.

I reckon we're one of the best teams to watch when we execute our game plan well. The way we demolished Geelong was a joy to behold. No coincidence that Walsh was at his best and Harry and Charlie were firing that day.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #28 – August 17, 2025, 04:12:32 pm

Since our game plan has received a 'tweak' (according to Vossy) we've been much better and as David (DJC) mentioned, actually really impressive to watch. Exciting even.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #29 – August 17, 2025, 04:26:22 pm

Quote from: Baggers – on August 17, 2025, 04:12:32 pm

Since our game plan has received a 'tweak' (according to Vossy) we've been much better and as David (DJC) mentioned, actually really impressive to watch. Exciting even.

Davids key word was "execute", Vossy also calls it "finishing our plays". I just call it ball butchering. Nothing wrong with our game plan, if you miss your kicks, handballs and marks, doesnt matter how you play.