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Graham Wright stated that a number of our key metrics are in good order, but kicking efficiency and conversion inside F50 are big problems. As GTC succinctly put it, ball butchering.

Quote from: Baggers – on August 17, 2025, 04:12:32 pm

Since our game plan has received a 'tweak' (according to Vossy) we've been much better and as David (DJC) mentioned, actually really impressive to watch. Exciting even.

Davids key word was "execute", Vossy also calls it "finishing out plays". I just call it ball butchering. Nothing wrong with our game plan, if you miss your kicks, handballs and marks, doesnt matter how you play.

Quote from: PaulP – on August 17, 2025, 04:33:00 pm

Graham Wright stated that a number of our key metrics are in good order, but kicking efficiency and conversion inside F50 are big problems. As GTC succinctly put it, ball butchering.

Its taken the brains trust of Cook and Wright a year together to come to that conclusion?

Pretty sure every man and his dog on here has been saying it forever.

Stats show we are one of the best for getting inside 50's and one of (if not THE) worst for converting them into goals.

Sometimes these type of 'insights' by the powers that be worry me.

Its taken the brains trust of Cook and Wright a year together to come to that conclusion?

Pretty sure every man and his dog on here has been saying it forever.

Stats show we are one of the best for getting inside 50's and one of (if not THE) worst for converting them into goals.

Sometimes these type of 'insights' by the powers that be worry me.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 17, 2025, 04:26:22 pm

Davids key word was "execute", Vossy also calls it "finishing out plays". I just call it ball butchering. Nothing wrong with our game plan, if you miss your kicks, handballs and marks, doesnt matter how you play.

The tweak I noticed yesterday was our willingness to look for an extra pass by hand or foot.  Jesse Motlop is a case in point; he seemed reluctant to have a shot and was looking for a teammate every time he got the pill.  That's generally the way Zac Williams plays but he seemed even more determined to find a teammate.  Then there was that play in the forward pocket that ended up in a goal after Zac marked dead in front.  The chain of possessions was Acres, Evans, Acres, Moir, Hewett, Acres, Williams and every one could have had a shot, and probably would have a couple of weeks ago.

Don't underestimate the infectious effect Sam Walsh had on the group as a whole. He runs and breaks lines and draws others to do the same. His freedom of movement was as good as it has been for 18 months. His impact affects Cripps, Hewett and makes the small forwards get busy in less a congested forward line. Get Walsh, Smith and Cottrell on the move next year, and the game plan will look pretty good.

Ollie Wines copped 3 weeks for the bump that concussed Cooper Lord.

Lord had been very effective in his tagging role - and winning his own footy.  He'd copped a lot of attention from Butters and it wouldn't surprise me if Wines was hoping add to the treatment.

I'm mixed on the Wines penalty, I understand the AFL's position on this, but I think 3 weeks is a bit steep. I agree that players should have a responsibility to those around them, but I think players should also have some awareness to be prepared for unexpected contact.

I think it's crazy that the AFL stance is effectively making others 100% responsible and liable for your welfare.

I think just a week or two would have been enough.

btw., I've heard that Lord was in another separate incident that actually copped him high, so how do you assign a delayed concussion to one incident and not another? It will be interesting to see what comes out.

Where have those last 5 qtrs we have played been all year.

Quote from: LP – on August 17, 2025, 09:19:06 pm

I'm mixed on the Wines penalty, I understand the AFL's position on this, but I think 3 weeks is a bit steep. I agree that players should have a responsibility to those around them, but I think players should also have some awareness to be prepared for unexpected contact.

I think it's crazy that the AFL stance is effectively making others 100% responsible and liable for your welfare.

I think just a week or two would have been enough.

btw., I've heard that Lord was in another separate incident that actually copped him high, so how do you assign a delayed concussion to one incident and not another? It will be interesting to see what comes out.

I too thought 3 weeks was a bit heavy. Just seemed like a late bump. Did he actually get Lord high? Didn't look it to me. Maybe hit his head on the ground. It seems the penalty is based on the damage done, especially if you elect to bump. Plenty of bumps like that end up with no serious outcome.