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Re: Under 23 players

Reply #15 –
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Certainly, competing for the same roles, but Binns' running was well above the others.

Although I think his physicality was well below those he competed with, and that might not be acceptable for a coach with Voss' history!

Anyway, it's just another speculation, I think the real question is not why he was delisted, but why he wasn't picked up because his running is elite at any level.

Cottrell and Hollands, O are elite runners, they make better use of the pill when they get it, and they play better defence. 

I believe that Binnsy will be playing for Berwick in 2026 but he's also on Essendon's VFL list.  I think that supports our decision to tear up his contract.
 
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Re: Under 23 players

Reply #16 –
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Quote from: kruddler – on
Too many similar types and he didn't have any tricks, disposal was average.

O. Hollands, L. Camporeale....even Cottrell play the same role and better.
Certainly, competing for the same roles, but Binns' running was well above the others.

Although I think his physicality was well below those he competed with, and that might not be acceptable for a coach with Voss' history!

Anyway, it's just another speculation, I think the real question is not why he was delisted, but why he wasn't picked up because his running is elite at any level.

Define 'running'.

As DJC just stated, Cottrell and Hollands are elite runners, and have been for years now. Maybe Binns' beat them in a race here or there, but at best he was on a par with them in that area (i disagree) but was behind in every other area IMO, hence the delisting.
 

Re: Under 23 players

Reply #17 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Define 'running'.

As DJC just stated, Cottrell and Hollands are elite runners, and have been for years now. Maybe Binns' beat them in a race here or there, but at best he was on a par with them in that area (i disagree) but was behind in every other area IMO, hence the delisting.

Moving quickly on foot? 😇

Binns got a contract extension on the back of excellent VFL form … and I’ve defended that decision in the past.  Tearing that contract up was a major u-turn and I’d love to know what the thinking behind it was.

Perhaps the bake from Vossy in his 8th and final game is the key - although Binnsy reckons his delisting was unexpected.


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Re: Under 23 players

Reply #18 –
Cottrell and Hollands are elite aerobic runners, marathon athletes, but not the combination of pace and deep running that Binns is capable of, however both of them have Binns comfortably covered because when they get to the contest they compete, Binns tends to move / run to receive.
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Re: Under 23 players

Reply #19 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Define 'running'.

As DJC just stated, Cottrell and Hollands are elite runners, and have been for years now. Maybe Binns' beat them in a race here or there, but at best he was on a par with them in that area (i disagree) but was behind in every other area IMO, hence the delisting.

Moving quickly on foot? 😇

Binns got a contract extension on the back of excellent VFL form … and I’ve defended that decision in the past.  Tearing that contract up was a major u-turn and I’d love to know what the thinking behind it was.

Perhaps the bake from Vossy in his 8th and final game is the key - although Binnsy reckons his delisting was unexpected.

2 wrongs dont make a right.
Original decision to extend was wrong.
Decision to sack early was right.