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Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #30
I'm the opposite.

We are a big unknown right now.
We don't know how we will line up and how we will play.....how the hell do the opposition scout that?

We have the ability to come out of the blocks early and get the jump on them before they get a chance to react.
On the other hand, we have 2 ex-sydney players who would be well aware of their gameplan. The only difference with them is who they kick to in the 50 now.

Later in the year when we've shown our hand it will be harder to get wins IMO.
Early on, anything is possible.

Similarly, we could get done by 100 points if we haven't got our $h!t together.....but more chance of a win than that happened IMO.

I'm thinking along the same lines.  We could have seven or eight debutants on Thursday and that's going to be a headache for Sydney's opposition analysts.  We've also gone from a conventional two KPF forward line to a more dynamic, multi-faceted offence and, potentially, different and more efficient ball movement.

Sydney were rubbish last season, with no real excuses apart from a coach on his Ls.  They won more games than us but with almost the same percentage despite our glaring inability to score. 

Cant lose to a midpack team like the Swans and need to bank wins early and get the pressure off Voss. I dont see much fallout from the top 8 from last season apart from Collingwood who I think will struggle and we cant be losing to teams around us or below imho.

Yes, if we're going to have any joy at all this season, we can't afford to drop games against mediocre teams, even if they have brought in a messiah ... with dodgy knees, questionable attitude and poor second efforts.
 
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #31


Do you think they are around us EB?

Many of the experts have them in the top 4 and us in the bottom 6. They had an off year last year I expect them to jump right back up this year - their ruck, midfield and forward groups are as good as any if all fit. And if you add a fit Charlie who knows how far they can go.  

Their back 6 is their query so hopefully ball spends more time in that section of the ground on Thursday night for us to have a chance    
Shawny, apart from Charlie their list is the same as last season minus Haywood/Florent and they are relying on  organic growth plus their Coach improving his output. I'm less optimistic about their chances than the scribes, one injury to any of Heeney, Gulden or Warner and they are back struggling as Cox doesn't have the innovation or levers to pull that the top coaches have imho.

Agree they dont have depth but if they are fit their list is very strong and has less holes than ours all things being equal.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #32
Gulden and Heeney concern me more than the traitor, Swans are half the side when Gulden is absent or under control.

Henney always tears us to shreds,  we never seem to have a good match up for him  (they always try Gov, and it never works)

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #33

Shawny, apart from Charlie their list is the same as last season minus Haywood/Florent and they are relying on  organic growth plus their Coach improving his output. I'm less optimistic about their chances than the scribes, one injury to any of Heeney, Gulden or Warner and they are back struggling as Cox doesn't have the innovation or levers to pull that the top coaches have imho.

Agree they dont have depth but if they are fit their list is very strong and has less holes than ours all things being equal.
They are usually competitive and have a star laden midfield with a couple of players we don't have matchups for but I think with careful planning we can contain those players and a good start is imperative.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #34
I hope your right mate but after watching us get humbled by a reserve team outfit last year in R1 I'm dont have a heap of confidence beating Sydney in Sydney.

In melb it may have been an even money bet but up there is never easy
 

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #35
I hope your right mate but after watching us get humbled by a reserve team outfit last year in R1 I'm dont have a heap of confidence beating Sydney in Sydney.

In melb it may have been an even money bet but up there is never easy
 
I'm more optimistic the players will lift for the coach given this season is make or break in many ways and I think the Swans are also at the crossroads with their new coach and have sold the farm for Charlie for an instant fix when I think the problems are elsewhere.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #36
I hope your right mate but after watching us get humbled by a reserve team outfit last year in R1 I'm dont have a heap of confidence beating Sydney in Sydney.

In melb it may have been an even money bet but up there is never easy
 
I'm more optimistic the players will lift for the coach given this season is make or break in many ways and I think the Swans are also at the crossroads with their new coach and have sold the farm for Charlie for an instant fix when I think the problems are elsewhere.
you may be right EB, but we’ll definitely be on the receiving end of the sugar hit that Curnow has brought the Swans. If we find a way to win it will be an impressive achievement.
The Ox is slow but I'm running out of patience.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #37
Couldn't give a fig about the CC effect. What we'll see is how our group responds to the strong pressure the Fluffy Ducks will bring, especially on their dung heap. Happy hunting ground for them, not so much for us. Great test. We'll see how well the gelling of the new mix is coming along.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #38
Who is going to win?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #39

Love us to give it a kick start...but I think it will be the Swans by 3-4 goals.

I'm looking to this year as an improvement on last year, and while that result may seem contradictory it actually aligns with their 2025 ladder positions.
They only finished one spot above us, but had three more wins.
Add to that its on their home ground.
If we win this one it will be a great start.

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #40
Both Weiters and Charlie have talked about how much time they have spent competing against each other over the last ten years.  If anyone knows how to get the better of Charlie, it's Weiters and I don't buy the argument that Charlie is too fast for him.  Charlie is expecting Weiters to play on him and he probably will, at times.  I'm just not convinced that shutting Charlie down is make the best use of Weiters in terms of his intercept marking and setting up our transition from defence.

The only defender I wouldn't like to see spend a lot of time on Charlie is Lewis Young.  I think that his reaction time could give Charlie a metre or two, and that's all he needs.  Help defence from our other talls, and from wingers and small forwards should make it more difficult for Charlie to get that break.  Of course, cutting off the supply is the best way to stop Sydney's forwards and I think we've got the players to do that.

I'm quietly confident that we'll prevail.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

 

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #42
Both Weiters and Charlie have talked about how much time they have spent competing against each other over the last ten years.  If anyone knows how to get the better of Charlie, it's Weiters and I don't buy the argument that Charlie is too fast for him.  Charlie is expecting Weiters to play on him and he probably will, at times.  I'm just not convinced that shutting Charlie down is make the best use of Weiters in terms of his intercept marking and setting up our transition from defence.

The only defender I wouldn't like to see spend a lot of time on Charlie is Lewis Young.  I think that his reaction time could give Charlie a metre or two, and that's all he needs.  Help defence from our other talls, and from wingers and small forwards should make it more difficult for Charlie to get that break.  Of course, cutting off the supply is the best way to stop Sydney's forwards and I think we've got the players to do that.

I'm quietly confident that we'll prevail.

Dean will come across and help Weiters when needed.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #43
Not that it was in doubt, but we have confirmation via socials that Harry Dean and Jagga Smith will make their debut this thursday evening.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney

Reply #44
Not that it was in doubt, but we have confirmation via socials that Harry Dean and Jagga Smith will make their debut this thursday evening.

Nothing surer
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership