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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #15
I had the wrong Hollands out, E not O
For some reason, I thought Newman was suspended but its been brought to my attention he is available so he needs to come in also.

Newey’s suspension is up but he has only played limited minutes in two VFL practice games.  I suspect that he will be underdone.

He is in his last few seasons imo - considering where this list is we just have to get games into Moir, Campo brothers, Flynn Young  this season. We cant waste this year playing too many of the older blokes at the expense of kids. I know its a balance but the likes of Hynes, Newman, McGovern, Saad cannot be automatic ins anymore.

 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #16
I fear Moir is going to struggle under our faster game style, he seems best suited to the older stoppage / marking game style where he could be the 3rd man up in the contest.

To persist he really needs to make better use of his ambidextrous capabilities, if anything he seems to have gone backwards in that regard.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #17
I fear Moir is going to struggle under our faster game style, he seems best suited to the older stoppage / marking game style where he could be the 3rd man up in the contest.

To persist he really needs to make better use of his ambidextrous capabilities, if anything he seems to have gone backwards in that regard.

Moir will be best as a stay at home FF. Isolate him 1 on 1, and you'll get a fair amount of goals out of him.

Yes, he can be a bit slack.
Yes, he can drop his head in the contest a little bit.

You know who else could fit into those same shoes? Fevola!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #18
I fear Moir is going to struggle under our faster game style, he seems best suited to the older stoppage / marking game style where he could be the 3rd man up in the contest.

To persist he really needs to make better use of his ambidextrous capabilities, if anything he seems to have gone backwards in that regard.
His ability to kick equally well with both feet is a talent we can ill afford to lose. If there is a way to use him differently I would explore it. Maybe in the midfield? Surely we can cure any attitude problems he may have, unless of course of he is getting homesick in which case there is no curing that. If PA or Adel want him, get a deal done with them.
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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #19
I know the AFL hate us, but the scheduling of the next few weeks is seriously diabolical.
[1] Rd #2 Bye. Then an extra long wait before our next game when we really need game time into our players.
[2] vs Melbourne on a Sunday afternoon - not bad in itself, but then we have 2 short weeks in a row, Can't they schedule us for a Saturday? Or a Friday night?
[3] Good Friday against North
[4] Thursday night against Collingwood

Do other teams get screwed around like this?

Enough rant for the moment. After our bye, we play Melbourne at 15:15 on a Sunday (29th March).
I have no idea how good Melbourne will be, but they are going to miss their stars eventually.
Gawn is too good for our rucks. I'm not sure what we can do about that.
Just noticed, we have a 17 day break. AFL actually look when doing the fixture?

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Reply #20
I recall Gawn speaking post match about the challenge of facing DeKoning and Pittonet and the physical effort it took.
St Kilda were behind the eight ball in that department yesterday once Marshall went into the concussion protocols.

We'll need two rucks against him
The question for us...O'Keefe or Reidy.

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Reply #21
^^ Id start with O'keefe I think.

Personally, Id possibly ruck Pittonet by himself, and add more run as we havent been doing well after half time.  You can be too ruck focussed. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #22
HoK has something I reckon, his rucking has improved and he is effective at deck level. 
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #23
Tough choice :D

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=7132&pid2=7107&fid1=S&fid2=S

Seriously though...
We need to get more games into O'Keefe
Reidy has a bit more physicality and aggression in his game at this stage.

It 'is' probably a tough choice.


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Reply #24
I'd go with HOK for his forward work potential and the fact Harry and Kemp hasn't worked. Gawn will get his 40 hitouts but we will still win the clearances as Melbournes midfield is depleted with Viney missing and their outs in the trade period.
Stkilda got punished for their loose defense and we need to make sure we learn from that.

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Reply #25
i agree add more RUN  RUN doesnt matter Gawny always beats our ruck , for F.....k S....e can our defenders or when we go forward do not kick the ball straight to MAXY 

 

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Reply #26
i agree add more RUN  RUN doesnt matter Gawny always beats our ruck , for F.....k S....e can our defenders or when we go forward do not kick the ball straight to MAXY
Seeing Gawn drop into the space without any fear or trepidation makes me pine for days of Fev, Ablett Snr or Lockett accompanied by their anvil like knees!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #27
MacG stays forward and Kemp might get squeezed out.

Harry needs a hand as a marking target and MacG looked better in his time up forward than Kemp does.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #28
I recall Gawn speaking post match about the challenge of facing DeKoning and Pittonet and the physical effort it took.
St Kilda were behind the eight ball in that department yesterday once Marshall went into the concussion protocols.

We'll need two rucks against him
The question for us...O'Keefe or Reidy.

Put 2 players against any 1 player and they will find it difficult.

THe other side of that coin is that you have less players to play on other players....and thats where the damage gets done.

We've had many a debate about our chances this season and you've tried to convince me we'll be ok because of the spread of talent we got in vs losing elite talent.
This is the same argument but coming from the opposite direction. Forget about trying to cover the elite Gawn and use your spread of talent to win other areas of the ground.....and thus the game.

Rucks are overated.
Gawn is elite.
Gawn vs 1 ruck, he might get 30 touches and kick 2 goals.
Gawn vs 2 rucks, he might get 20 touches and kick 1 goal.

Is it worth adding an extra player to save 10 touches and a goal?
Do we go down a midfield rotation as a result? A midfielder that might get you 20 touches and a goal themselves.....as well as ease the load on the other midfielders, allowing them to benefit as well.

Now, more than ever, our team can afford to play 2 'ruck types' given one of them is basically our FF.
But even then, the output of HOK (or Reidy) in that role is not really seeing us get much of a benefit.

Stick with 1 ruck, and run them off their feet.
.....or at least limit the damage we do to ourselves when we fall in a hole after half time unable to run anymore.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #29
I recall Gawn speaking post match about the challenge of facing DeKoning and Pittonet and the physical effort it took.
St Kilda were behind the eight ball in that department yesterday once Marshall went into the concussion protocols.

We'll need two rucks against him
The question for us...O'Keefe or Reidy.

Put 2 players against any 1 player and they will find it difficult.

THe other side of that coin is that you have less players to play on other players....and thats where the damage gets done.

We've had many a debate about our chances this season and you've tried to convince me we'll be ok because of the spread of talent we got in vs losing elite talent.
This is the same argument but coming from the opposite direction. Forget about trying to cover the elite Gawn and use your spread of talent to win other areas of the ground.....and thus the game.

Rucks are overated.
Gawn is elite.
Gawn vs 1 ruck, he might get 30 touches and kick 2 goals.
Gawn vs 2 rucks, he might get 20 touches and kick 1 goal.

Is it worth adding an extra player to save 10 touches and a goal?
Do we go down a midfield rotation as a result? A midfielder that might get you 20 touches and a goal themselves.....as well as ease the load on the other midfielders, allowing them to benefit as well.

Now, more than ever, our team can afford to play 2 'ruck types' given one of them is basically our FF.
But even then, the output of HOK (or Reidy) in that role is not really seeing us get much of a benefit.

Stick with 1 ruck, and run them off their feet.
.....or at least limit the damage we do to ourselves when we fall in a hole after half time unable to run anymore.
Yep, let lewis young do the relief work currently.  even if he breaks we might end up better off... 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson