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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #75 –
what did our LM see in Chesser and Florent.

Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.

On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth.  Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #76 –
Quote from: shawny – on
what did our LM see in Chesser and Florent.

Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.

On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth.  Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.
Kosi signed a new contract last year on $2M a year didnt he?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #77 –
Quote from: shawny – on
what did our LM see in Chesser and Florent.

Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.

On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth.  Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.

Kosi tore the game apart because he was allowed to.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #78 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
This is not new. We've seen this movie over and over for quite some time now.

We've changed the game style, but not what is between the lugholes of our blokes. Same old, same old. You can paint stripes on a donkey and tell it to now run fast and hunt...

Bottom line: we're an embarrassment with no respect from other clubs. We have all the mental grit, resilience and strength of a turnip. But this is of our own making. How come this group is so demoralised that it can only operate when things are going their way... and easy?

Vossy admitted he's a glass half full kind of guy, looking for positives to focus on. All too often those who rely on positive thinking only do so because they're sh*t scared of negatives... reality. Fear based. Confronting fears (negatives) requires courage. Confronting the mindset of what happens to our blokes when pressure and change comes might just reveal the issue(s). We're courageous with our bodies, but not with our minds and hearts. Why?
Limited list talent wise being coached by a man who is struggling with a modern game plan which is foreign to how he really wants the game played and looks like a deer in the headlights when the momentum changes and gets that paralysed look which all Carlton coaches of recent times get.
Zero leadership from senior players, the captain looks like he has checked out and I also question our fitness.
The talent wasn't limited in the 1st quarter!!!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #79 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Quote from: shawny – on
what did our LM see in Chesser and Florent.

Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.

On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth.  Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.

Kosi tore the game apart because he was allowed to.
This is all too true. When we had a fit tagger, someone who could play close, Pickett was a total non-issue who struggled to get a kick. But the last two games he hasn't had anyone playing him closely, and he has really hurt us.

Alas, this isn't an isolated case. We don't do much locking down. Cooper Lord does some, but he has limitations due to his pace. We need someone who can take out the opposition's best midfielder, which we don't have. Look at the way Collingwood struggle when Daicos is ineffective. But can we do that? We don't even try.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #80 –
I wish we hadn’t won those pre-season games against last year’s Grand Finalists.
The fall from expectation to reality has been sudden and steep. No-one rates the Dees but we couldn’t beat them.
I think E Hollands is looking great and Frankie gives his all. Crippa is looking slow and Walsh is not as elusive as he used to be. Gawn and Pickett killed us

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #81 –
Really loving H Dean - he has that attitude!

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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #82 –
Quote from: shawny – on
what did our LM see in Chesser and Florent.

Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.

On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth.  Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.
Agree...Hayward and Ainsworth are handy players but not matchwinners and Id like the latter to spend some more time onball but Chesser and Florent are very average imo and I can see why the Swans let Florent go after signing him to that long deal.
Chesser isnt a great contested player and I dont see what the List Management team saw in his kicking either, I thought the real difference in the game showed when the kid Lindsay and Fritsch had the ball along with K.Pickett of course and their footskills just knifed through our defense, hit up players and the goalkicking of Fritsch was A grade.
 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #83 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: shawny – on
what did our LM see in Chesser and Florent.

Both turn over merchants and the opposite of the type of players we need.

On another note if Saints are paying Milera 2M what is Pickett worth.  Can rip a game apart like no one else except maybe only nick dacios.
Agree...Hayward and Ainsworth are handy players but not matchwinners and Id like the latter to spend some more time onball but Chesser and Florent are very average imo and I can see why the Swans let Florent go after signing him to that long deal.
Chesser isnt a great contested player and I dont see what the List Management team saw in his kicking either, I thought the real difference in the game showed when the kid Lindsay and Fritsch had the ball along with K.Pickett of course and their footskills just knifed through our defense, hit up players and the goalkicking of Fritsch was A grade.
Fritsch always plays well against us.

Had it been even all game and we lost I wouldve been disappointed but the next day I wouldve said well they still have some excellent premiership players so okay, i wouldve given them that out and sais Kemp is only back after a year off as is Elijah, H is getting used to being the lone tall fwd, new guys are finding their feet etc BUT being 42 pts up and capitulating?! Absolutely terrible.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #84 –
Quote from: MickyO – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Agree...Hayward and Ainsworth are handy players but not matchwinners and Id like the latter to spend some more time onball but Chesser and Florent are very average imo and I can see why the Swans let Florent go after signing him to that long deal.
Chesser isnt a great contested player and I dont see what the List Management team saw in his kicking either, I thought the real difference in the game showed when the kid Lindsay and Fritsch had the ball along with K.Pickett of course and their footskills just knifed through our defense, hit up players and the goalkicking of Fritsch was A grade.
Fritsch always plays well against us.

Had it been even all game and we lost I wouldve been disappointed but the next day I wouldve said well they still have some excellent premiership players so okay, i wouldve given them that out and sais Kemp is only back after a year off as is Elijah, H is getting used to being the lone tall fwd, new guys are finding their feet etc BUT being 42 pts up and capitulating?! Absolutely terrible.
We look a rudderless mess and even in the 1st quarter I thought it was Melbourne's poor skills and defensive efforts that helped us kick 6 goals rather than any type of brilliant method. As has been discussed at length in the media and on most forums once opposing teams even up the contest at the stoppages we start to fall away and when we have to chase and defend we get overwhelmed with the workrate required to keep up.
Individually we have some decent players but as a team we dont look organised or willing to work for each other and we need someone like a Luke Hodge type who can get in players faces and demand more effort and accountability when it gets tough.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #85 –
our list is to SLOW and this is why i say SOS (stuffed the club up )and Now Nick Austin  should face pressure also but Voss wow no more words can save him i think.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #86 –
Quote from: ratlice – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Limited list talent wise being coached by a man who is struggling with a modern game plan which is foreign to how he really wants the game played and looks like a deer in the headlights when the momentum changes and gets that paralysed look which all Carlton coaches of recent times get.
Zero leadership from senior players, the captain looks like he has checked out and I also question our fitness.
The talent wasn't limited in the 1st quarter!!!
The first quarter wasnt as good as it looks, Melbourne made plenty of errors and served up the ball, the first ten minutes was rubbish from both teams. Do we want to live in denial or do we want to face reality that it was a low grade team we were playing and that we still have a poor system. The Richmond game was another horrible game of poor skills despite the bright start, there are about 4-5 teams in the comp who play the worst brand of non watchable football and we are one of them, we play another on Easter Friday. Id rather see a good brand/style of play than an early flurry of goals caused by Nths self inflicted errors, we need to have a good system to fall back on to create our own goals when the other team are not handing us easy goals and thats what we lack...

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #87 –
I think Melbourne had 9 or 10 players from their 2021 Premiership team.