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Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
HOK also needs a spell, give Ready another crack and light a fire under his feet this time.
I think HOK needs game time, if Kemp goes out I'd push HOK forward and put Derksen in D50 for Dean. HOK is also a viable tall alternative target to McKay.

Also if Xerri goes out, I think bench time could be reversed this week, with Pitto on the sidelines more and HOK rucking.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Adelaideblue – on
Given the way we are being swept aside at centre bounces as games progress, I would hope selectors bring in Ben Camporeale for some more grunt.
Didn't watch the game, but 27 disposals suggests he is running into some reasonable form.

Wade Derksen could be the obvious choice if Harry Dean with injured shoulder doesn't come up. I would hope they give Dean a good spell and allow his young body time to recover.



B Campo in for Williams who to appeared get injured
Derksen (as a fwd) in for either Kemp who needs a spell in the 2s to gain some form
Need another defender to come in for Dean if he misses.
HOK also needs a spell, give Ready another crack and light a fire under his feet this time.
Leave Gov fwd as he appears to be the only functioning tall.
Can they fire up Harry into some semblance of competitiveness? Feed him some angry pills for goodness sake.
Derksen in for Kemp, Newman in for Dean...
Id probably have Harry as my second ruck, Nth are three yards quicker than we are so Id be loathe to add another slow moving player in the rotation so No to Reidy especially with Xerri out.
Flynn Young in for Chesser.
Saad in because he has pace and can hit a target but Id play him further up the ground away from a player like Curtis who is ultra dangerous and we cant have all our defenders of the rebound type.
Newman to play on Zurhaar.
Cowan on Curtis.
If our coaching dept have scouted Nth properly they will probably know that Finn OSullivan will probably tag Walsh after doing a great job on Merrett so Voss needs to find a counter or alternatives as we know that Cripps and Hewett will only be plodding after halftime and Id be playing Ainsworth more onball and if Ben Campo plays using him more in the middle.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #32 –
Dean (injured) out Derksen in - Just a bit of height and weight. Thought he was good pre-season
Chesser (omitted) out Ben Campo in - Crash said he was OK in the VFL and that's better than what Chesser is producing
O'Keeffe (omitted) out Cottrell in (maybe underdone)  - H to relieve Pitto when required.
Williams (injured) out Flynn Young in - Been kicking goals
Kemp (omitted) out Moir in - Not setting the football world alight in the VFL but can only be as good as Kemp who is putrid at the moment

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #33 –
Kemp hasn't looked the same athletically since he has come back from his knee.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #34 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Kemp hasn't looked the same athletically since he has come back from his knee.
I think he's moving OK, but are we seeing the difference that being a fulltime forward brings compared to a pinch hitter?

Now, week in and week out opponents will be prepared, drilled and trained to put him in the situations that expose his weakness.

AFL is not like local footy, just getting fit again isn't good enough.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #35 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
HOK also needs a spell, give Ready another crack and light a fire under his feet this time.
I think HOK needs game time, if Kemp goes out I'd push HOK forward and put Derksen in D50 for Dean. HOK is also a viable tall alternative target to McKay.

Also if Xerri goes out, I think bench time could be reversed this week, with Pitto on the sidelines more and HOK rucking.
Perhaps I was being harsh on HOK, after all he was at times up against one of the best ruckman to play the game
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Perhaps I was being harsh on HOK, after all he was at times up against one of the best ruckman to play the game
When I watched the replay about 1/2 of HOK's time on the ground was subbing for Young, Gov, Kemp or McKay.

His progress will be slow if he keeps getting used in such a fractured manner, but perhaps he is happy to do because he gets a game. Reminds me of when Cottrell started, a bits and pieces player that copped a lot of flak, but once he settled we got to see what he could do when fit.

Ignoring fitness of limitations, I think we really miss Cottrell's natural aggression.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #37 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Kemp hasn't looked the same athletically since he has come back from his knee.
I think he's moving OK, but are we seeing the difference that being a fulltime forward brings compared to a pinch hitter?

Now, week in and week out opponents will be prepared, drilled and trained to put him in the situations that expose his weakness.

AFL is not like local footy, just getting fit again isn't good enough.

I'm not even talking about his role, he looks slower,  less agile and struggled to bend over to pick up the ball.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #38 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I'm not even talking about his role, he looks slower,  less agile and struggled to bend over to pick up the ball.
My opening statement was I thought he is moving OK.

But he might not look comfortable in his approach at the footy because he's being put in unfamiliar circumstances, making him hesitant.

In both our losses he's gone berserker in the last quarter and taken out one of his own, he hit the contest at speed with completely the wrong focus making him look awkward but not injured or lame.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #39 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Kemp hasn't looked the same athletically since he has come back from his knee.
Knee?

Achillies you mean?

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #40 –
Kemp too often caught behind Lever, who took him to school.      Hopefully he learnt a lot but he looked like a defender playing forward on Sunday.   No forward craft at all.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #41 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Perhaps I was being harsh on HOK, after all he was at times up against one of the best ruckman to play the game
When I watched the replay about 1/2 of HOK's time on the ground was subbing for Young, Gov, Kemp or McKay.

His progress will be slow if he keeps getting used in such a fractured manner, but perhaps he is happy to do because he gets a game. Reminds me of when Cottrell started, a bits and pieces player that copped a lot of flak, but once he settled we got to see what he could do when fit.

Ignoring fitness of limitations, I think we really miss Cottrell's natural aggression.

HOK also had the least game time of any Carlton player on the weekend- 44%
 

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #42 –
Quote from: Lods – on
HOK also had the least game time of any Carlton player on the weekend- 44%

Chicken and egg.

Did he play the least amount of game time because he was no good?
Was he no good because he didn't get much game time?

Based on previous efforts, i'm going with the first one.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #43 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
HOK also had the least game time of any Carlton player on the weekend- 44%

Chicken and egg.

Did he play the least amount of game time because he was no good?
Was he no good because he didn't get much game time?

Based on previous efforts, i'm going with the first one.

That leaves me with option 2....because we cant agree on anything at the moment :D

If it was because he was poor he won't be playing next week.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Chicken and egg.

Did he play the least amount of game time because he was no good?
Was he no good because he didn't get much game time?

Based on previous efforts, i'm going with the first one.

That leaves me with option 2....because we cant agree on anything at the moment :D

If it was because he was poor he won't be playing next week.

....and what if the cupboard is so bare we don't have a choice BUT to play him?