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Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #90 –
He's the exact same. Great at the ruck contest then terrible after.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #91 –
In fairness to Pitto I think he could have done even better, he got into the right spot inside F50 a couple of times only to be spoiled marking by his own team-mates.

It's actually a bad habit we have as a team, we've not yet learned to create space rather than take it from each other, part of being a bunch of F50 newbies.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #92 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
He's the exact same. Great at the ruck contest then terrible after.
Likes a goal.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #93 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
He's the exact same. Great at the ruck contest then terrible after.

Well if there is only 8 people 'better' than him and he's the exact same, then plenty owe him an apology.

I suspect that his work up forward has been the difference between this year and others.

He set himself a pre-season goal to kick 20 goals for the year...he's on track so far.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #94 –
I'm not buying that data, not sure where they got it from?
It's not the official AFL player ratings.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #95 –
His shot for goal last week was anything but elite.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #96 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
His shot for goal last week was anything but elite.
It happens.

Charlie missed an easier one.... and he wasn't playing in the wet.

The torp he did last year was though.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #97 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
Others being asked to develop their leadership skills? Weaning off Crippa?

Agreed, and possibly an opportunity to send a message.

The media will claim it was sending a message to Cripps on the bench, because there hides the controversy and the clicks.

But for me it was more than likely a message from the coach to the blokes in the centre square, and perhaps in conjunction Hewett's absence is more about a lack of fault rather than disciplining or punishment.

The coach showed them what it's like when you haven't got someone sacrificing for your benefit! So I'd be having a close look at the replay to see who was the middle in their absence! Was there a Judas?

The major culprit for the issues in the middle, when Cripps was off, were the umpires - in my opinion!!    2nd quarter we gave up 6 centre clearances in a row,  and 4 of them were free kicks (all of which were dubious).  wouldnt have matterred if diesel, kouta and ratts were in there, we would have struggled

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #98 –
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
The major culprit for the issues in the middle, when Cripps was off, were the umpires - in my opinion!!    2nd quarter we gave up 6 centre clearances in a row,  and 4 of them were free kicks (all of which were dubious).  wouldnt have matterred if diesel, kouta and ratts were in there, we would have struggled
Interesting, I've heard that some past players(not Carlton) were talking along similar lines on one of the post game streams, not questioning the decisions because that happens, but questioning how they all seemed go one way!

For me that is confirmation of bias which I've talked about on other threads, it happens because umpires are human and they subconsciously anticipate Carlton having "a moment". It's not deliberate but an effect of having an expectation.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #99 –
Coaches' votes :

10 Joshua Rachele (ADEL)
7 Sam Berry (ADEL)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
4 Wayne Milera (ADEL)
2 Marc Pittonet (CARL)
1 Josh Worrell (ADEL)
1 Alex Neal-Bullen (ADEL)

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #100 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Coaches' votes :

10 Joshua Rachele (ADEL)
7 Sam Berry (ADEL)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
4 Wayne Milera (ADEL)
2 Marc Pittonet (CARL)
1 Josh Worrell (ADEL)
1 Alex Neal-Bullen (ADEL)
10 votes for Rachele seems odd to me.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #101 –
I am so glad I didn't watch this game live. I'd hate to measure my cortisol levels at the moment, having just finished watching the replay.

[1] I really hate Adelaide. I've never seen a team squeal and complain as much as these turkeys do.
However, there is much we can learn from these guys:
(a) they are so much stronger than us. We need to address that. This is an area we have failed to address since our glory days.
(b) they are so much more organized than we are. This is something we should have addressed, but do not appear to have.
(c) their team structure is better than ours.

[2] We really play like a bottom 4 side. The lack of structure going forward irritates me intensely.
(a) We don't lead. The few times we do lead, the lead isn't honoured. We just fill up the spaces so there is nowhere to lead into.
(b) We always seem to kick under pressure. It is no wonder we don't hit targets when we're always under pressure. Yet, do we put our opponents under that sort of pressure? No. Our opponents always seem to have someone free.
(c) Our defence is terrible at the moment. It should improve with Weitering back, but the lack of structure, the lack of intelligence and the lack of confidence really stood out. We spoiled each other any number of times. Our guys were in position to mark the ball, but didn't. Sometimes we simply dropped the mark, other times we punched the ball instead of marking it.
(d) we don't want the ball as badly as our opponents. In 2023, our pressure was excellent and we appeared to want the ball. That is not the case at the moment. We just don't have the desperation. We don't exert enough physical pressure.
(e) Our game style is extremely inefficient. We handle the ball a lot to move forward, which doesn't work well in the wet or under pressure. Our skills ... I've mentioned that enough. But, if we handle the ball so often, our lack of skill is exposed.
(f) We rarely kick goals from turnovers. For that matter, we rarely score goals that do not come from centre clearances, and we don't do enough of those. Until we find a way to score other than from clearances we won't be winning many games.

[3] We get out-coached almost every week.
Our initial plans seem to be good enough, but we don't react to changes in the game. When Walsh was being tagged, did anyone block for him? No. During the last quarter we had Cripps matched up to Rankin, who is much quicker. Did we change that? No.

[4] Some of our players have really gone backwards:
(a) Harry McKay: H is presenting, but he isn't going to mark the ball with the way he is approaching the ball at the moment. Kane Cornes repeatedly pointed out that H had 'flat hands'. That wasn't going to help him with conditions as they were.
Does H use his strength? If he does. I don't see it. He can show it when he rucks in the forwards 50, but that is about it.
Does he get separation? Very rarely. It is hard when every mark is going to be a contested one.
(b) Lachie Cowan: Lachie has been pretty ordinary this season. We aren't seeing the strength or the attack on the ball that he showed in his first season. He can be an excellent grab, but he isn't taking his marks. When the pressure comes on, he just no longer grabs the ball in the air. He isn't as tight as he was. He doesn't attack the ball like he did. He is really stagnating.
(c) Patrick Cripps: the way things are officiated now doesn't do Crippa any favours. We will never be quick, but when he doesn't get frees for being held and gets double teamed whenever he has the ball, he isn't going to thrive or provide us with drive.
Our coaching staff should have woken up to that and planned for it, but that hasn't happened.
Crippa is still a warrior, but he isn't getting the assistance he needs.
As for his disposal, it is often terrible. He worked on that a lot and was pretty reliable for a while, but it had really dropped off. Like many, he is always under pressure, which doesn't help. But he has to go back and get his kicking sorted.
(d) Adam Cerra: Cez is just a shadow of what he was in 2023. He isn't getting to contests, he isn't winning them, he isn't blocking or helping his teammates and he is butchering the ball. I'm sure some of this is confidence, but some is just the way he is approaching the ball. He is probably our least effective mid at the moment.
(e) Nic Newman: Nic was always going to take a while to get back to his best, but he isn't having the impact he did. He isn't doing the things that made so effective for so long and he isn't stopping his opponent. I'm willing to give him the chance to get back to his game, because we really miss his drive, but he is struggling at the moment.
(f) Hudson O'Keefe: HOK has gone so much backwards that I'm really worried about him. He isn't taking marks, he isn't getting many taps and not guiding them that well. He is a player seriously lacking in confidence.

[5] Umpiring:
If we were playing well, the poor umpiring wouldn't bother me so much. We've lived with it for a long time. But, with us struggling, we've been hugely effected by the poor decisions. This, at least is out of our control, but we need to start squealing like certain Geelong or North Melbourne coaches does. We notice the same thing week in and week out, but the umpires ignore them like the rules don't exist. I'm tired of it.

[6] Do we have anyone who hasn't gone backwards? Yes!
(a) Marc Pittonet: the new ruck rules don't favour him, but he is doing his best and producing his best. There is a reason why he is 2nd in the Jim Park at the moment. He still has issues: he doesn't take enough marks and his kicking isn't reliable, but he is putting his best out there every week. Not many can say that.
(b) Nick Haynes: he might be as old as the hills, but the desire and effort are still there for Haynes. He is showing what is required to succeed at senior level, even with his relative lack of strength.
(c) Mitch McGovern: Mitch has underachieved for so long, but he is doing his best as a forward this season. We don't make it easy for him, but he is kicking goals.
Live Long and Prosper!