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Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #45
Sad part is Elijah has been our bedt player this year.

Hes llayed 1 good game, maybe 2, but was terrible to the point he shouldve been dropped.

He had played 75% game time up to 3/4 time iirc.

Tog by 1/4
87%
83%
55%
25%

Ended with 1 posession which got a 1m gain in the 3rd quarter.
Id looked at 3/4 time and he still had donuts.
Maybe the afl gifted him a touch in an attempt to hide the problem?

Saw vision of him on the bench in the last quarter sitting alone. He looked to be gesturing and motioning to himself. You know the way they portray crazy people in movies? Was definitely not right.

Commentators on the night said elijah didn't know where he is supposed to be. Which was after the 6 6 6 warning.

The footage shown already and there is more.

I hope this is the last time we see him in navy blue.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #46
Got back not long ago. Not happy. Another game we threw away.

[1] At least we did come back after we'd been pounded in the first 8 minutes of the last quarter. The result should have been a draw, although we were the better team for all but about 8 minutes.

[2] We seriously need a new coach. I'm sure we'll get one at season's end. We were out-coached when it mattered by half a Collingwood side. Why? We do not learn. If we can see the issues we have for more than a year, and none of them appear to have been addressed, you ask what the problem is.

[3] I am seriously disappointed with Talor Byrne tonight. He did some good thing, promising things, but when it mattered he really failed to stand up. Three shots at goal from no more than 40 m for 2 points, including the last, when it mattered, were critical.
Unfortunately, he wasn't alone. H kicked 1 goal 4 after dominating his position. That just isn't good enough for a professional key forward.
I don't want to dump on Matt Carroll, because he played a good game, but in the last quarter he had a couple of shots for nothing. He is normally a good kick, but he really missed when it was important.
Brodie Kemp: kicks the hard ones, but can't kick them from 20 out directly in front.

[4] I don't want to touch the Elijah Hollands matter. I've had anxiety issues: when it is really bad, you can't get out of bed, let alone play decent football. If he was that screwed up, we should never have played him. Flynn Young was available.

[5] Ollie Hollands is not a run-with player. he was given the job and came up really short. Daicos killed him when it mattered. His last quarter was like Walsh's 1st quarter last week: the difference.
We need very badly to recruit or develop a really athletic run-with player who can keep the opposition's best mids out of the game. At the moment, we don't have one.
Lord sometimes get the job, and he can do it well against anyone is similar speed. He wouldn't have been the match-up for Nick Daicos.
Losing Cincotta has really hurt us.

[6] I'm not sure if it all about our coaching, but our players can be seriously stupid sometimes.
(a) Lachie Cowan had some moment tonight that were just diabolical. Instead of taking the first option, he ran himself into trouble and screwed up.
(b) Adam Cerra wasn't far behind him. His decision making under pressure was dreadful, as was his kicking. He panicked, and it cost us goals.
(c) Kemp also stood out, fumbling marks he was taking early, falling over his own feet ... I just don't want to think about the rest.
(d) Although he wasn't bad tonight, H can be like that. He goes to ground too easily too often and his decision making can be dreadful. But tonight he was pretty good, but for his kicking. he needs to go back and get his kicking right before he loses us another game.

[7] Free kick to H, directly in front in the last quarter? Of course not. He's taken off with concussion and he doesn't get a too-high free.
I could go on about the umpires, but I've written enough about these guys. I'm over them. When we play well enough, we can go back to ignoring the stupid decisions they make.

[8] We probably lost the game by depending of Lewis Young as a 2nd ruck. I thought he wasn't bad, for the most part, but he was slaughtered in the ruck. It was the difference between winning and losing.

[9] I know Pitto works like a Trojan every week, but other rucks can lift in the last quarter and change the game. Pitto can't. When Steene got on top for those first 8 minutes, Collingwood got the ball out of middle quickly and we couldn't stop them.


Great post
Michael Voss has only survived because 3 (can’t kick for goal), 5 (no run with player with pace/strength), 6(repeated poor decision making) and 9 (no ruck man) is what he’s working with.

Arguably 6 could be addressed by a good system/coach but we’re a mess. A good side would have smashed Collingwood tonight.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #47


Great post
Michael Voss has only survived because 3 (can’t kick for goal), 5 (no run with player with pace/strength), 6(repeated poor decision making) and 9 (no ruck man) is what he’s working with.

Arguably 5 could be addressed by a good system/coach but we’re a mess. A good side would have smashed Collingwood tonight.
We are bottom 4 if not bottom 2.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #48

Arguably 5 could be addressed by a good system/coach but we’re a mess. A good side would have smashed Collingwood tonight.
What we saw tonight is typical of the broader AFL standard for 2026, it's a consequence of the continuous play and fatigue being caused by the new rules and interpretations.

All the teams are exhibiting shocking skill levels, the game is being dragged into a new low.

The key difference between the top and the bottom is not the amount of errors they make, it's that those at the top are much better at making opponents pay for those mistakes.

It's been a huge mistake leaving the rules of the game and the implementation of those rules in the hands of the AFL. If anything is needed, it's for amateur footy to wrestle back control of the sports rules and bring footy back.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #49
The more I think about out season, the more laughable it becomes. Not only did we capitulate again, we manage to find new ways to shine the spotlight on ourselves and embarrass our club even further. To play a guy whose welfare was clearly compromised is a new low for me. You just could not make this stuff up if you tried. Spare a thought for Ollie as well here, he is watching this from the front row and must be heartbreaking for him.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #50


Great post
Michael Voss has only survived because 3 (can’t kick for goal), 5 (no run with player with pace/strength), 6(repeated poor decision making) and 9 (no ruck man) is what he’s working with.

Arguably 5 could be addressed by a good system/coach but we’re a mess. A good side would have smashed Collingwood tonight.
We are bottom 4 if not bottom 2.

Or worse, bottom.

Also meant that point 6 rather than 5 could be addressed by a coach as we never really seem to know what to do next - our kick ins all year are a great example of this


Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #51
I normally dont post when Im angry and emotional but that one will just about see me out. We are just a terrible football side with zero ability to close out a game. Oppo know we will crap the bed, we supporters know it and most sad of all, the players know it.
At the start of the last quarter, we had our "best" quartet in the centre and we got taken to the cleaners by a novice ruckman and N Daicos three times in a row. It's at that point that I got up and left in utter disgust. I have been patient and said I'd stay the course but I dont think I can any more. This is not the Carlton I grew up adoring.

Feel your pain, brother GTC. At this stage, we're a shell of the club we grew up with and the brunt of way too many jokes.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #52
Feel your pain, brother GTC. At this stage, we're a shell of the club we grew up with and the brunt of way too many jokes.
@Baggers this stuff is self-perpetuating if you let it, you of all people here on this forum should know that.

Want to know what it feels like to have the Colliwobbles, the putting yips, now you do!

The only way through this is to stick fat, the exact opposite of what most are calling for, this is the front line and it needs quiet controlled and undivided unity to move forward step by step.

We can't be the chaotic numpty waging war against opponents and allies alike, we have to be calm, cold and deliberate like the SAS.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #53
Just found this online, have a look and you tell me ......... is Hollands off his dial here ??

https://x.com/tommorris32/status/2044752407306109009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2044752407306109009%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=

This explains the 0 stats IMO.

Pinging, for sure.    Send him back to rehab.    Another CFC  recruiting success story.    Voss and Austin need to get their resumes ready..       This club is a fn basket case.

"Pinging, for sure." No. Not what I saw, I saw someone disoriented.

IF he has an anxiety issue and on appropriate prescription medication (SSRI?) then given a caffeine tablet... Oh dear!

Just an IF, an alternate explanation to hysterical assumptions and burying the kid.

IF this is the case... well, caffeine is a natural enemy of anxiety and can cause serious side-effects, even disorientation and serotonin syndrome BUT you'd expect the club to be right across that.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #54
Still white hot, never been so pissed at a loss - which should have been an easy 6-8 goal win.  Never been so shat off at a player in almost 60 years following this club with the fervour of a fundamentalist.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #55
Thought Harry was much better this week and was probably infringed every time he went for a mark.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #56
So why is he umpires differently to every other key forward in the league?
Oh, and Howe will get weeks - clear definition of a sling/dump tackle.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #57
He shouldnt have been allowed to play and I'm not sure what our medicos were thinking letting him take the field. He must have been displaying symptoms in the dressing room and surely he is one player they would be asking are you right to go. He actually could have got badly hurt wandering around confused and dazed like he was.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #58
The more I think about out season, the more laughable it becomes. Not only did we capitulate again, we manage to find new ways to shine the spotlight on ourselves and embarrass our club even further. To play a guy whose welfare was clearly compromised is a new low for me. You just could not make this stuff up if you tried. Spare a thought for Ollie as well here, he is watching this from the front row and must be heartbreaking for him.
This!

Can we please park our emotions about Elijah? To me the more i think of it and the vision Ive seen, this is screwing terrifying for that kid. And for the club to put him out and leave him out there in front of 90k, is an absolute disgrace!  As i said previously, I noticed in the first that he didd something odd! Yet hes left on and vilified in the media about having no possessions and having really odd movements! And if I saw it from Row W in the first 10 mins, how the hell did the club let that continue.

And not only that, we throw his brother on the best player in the comp after hes run himself ragged all game, to try and stem Daicos’ influence / which he cant because Daicos was never going to play a complete crap game for his 100th! Now Ollie is getting hammered too.

I wonder if the club did this intentionally, putting and leaving E out there? I just cant see why they did!  I am a hell of a lot angrier about this than the loss!

Ffs!   Poor family! Imagine mum and dad watching this and as you said, poor Ollie on the ground!

Atm i friggen hate this club!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #59
Well he's certainly damaged his reputation and surely that's him done at CFC.  Trust = zero.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?