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Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #60 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Turn it up Baggers.

Caffeine, alcohol, mental health, how many more made up excuses are we going to give him?





Also, for your edification, caffeine is a CNS stimulant drug.
Alcohol is a CNS depressant drug.
Each has all manner of effects on dopamine and serotonin levels, especially on those with an Anxiety Disorder.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #61 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
He shouldnt have been allowed to play and I'm not sure what our medicos were thinking letting him take the field. He must have been displaying symptoms in the dressing room and surely he is one player they would be asking are you right to go. He actually could have got badly hurt wandering around confused and dazed like he was.

Well said, EB1 and I'm sure the AFL will be all over it for an explanation. He was clearly disoriented.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #62 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
Feel your pain, brother GTC. At this stage, we're a shell of the club we grew up with and the brunt of way too many jokes.
@Baggers this stuff is self-perpetuating if you let it, you of all people here on this forum should know that.

Want to know what it feels like to have the Colliwobbles, the putting yips, now you do!

The only way through this is to stick fat, the exact opposite of what most are calling for, this is the front line and it needs quiet controlled and undivided unity to move forward step by step.

We can't be the chaotic numpty waging war against opponents and allies alike, we have to be calm, cold and deliberate like the SAS.

Yep. When Rottingwood kicked those early goals in the final qtr and took the lead, we did fight back and could have won it. We did not capitulate. We're obviously exorcising demons that we've had for years, and gradually making progress.

What really concerns me, though, is Rottingwood was ordinary and there for the taking.

But I do think we're making progress. We've had these 'demons' for years and they'll take some conquering. Yep, stick fat.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #63 –
It is really important at this moment not to rush to public judgement.
Making specific allegations based on previous history is not appropriate
We may all 'think' we know what happened last night with Elijah.
But we don't know.
I will be  big story and the situation may become clearer as the week goes on...but for now hold fire until we know for sure
What is certain is that there will be pretty intense scrutiny as to why he was allowed to play on.

To be clear...it's OK to speculate, but not OK to declare for 'sure and certain'.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #64 –
Everytime the AFL tweak the rules and interpretations they feck it up, instead they should just enforce the rules that are there.

How does the AFL today rationalise H being whacked across the face, is it now legal to hit people in the face as long as you contact the footy, is that the message? If so wait and see what the likes of Larky and King will do! The H incident wasn't some middle of the pack obscured contest, this was in the open clear of all vision obstructions!

In the meantime, the AFL review a pill pinging off sets of legs that were possibly a centimetre inside the boundary line, and ignore a smack in the face that was seemingly obvious to everybody at the ground and on the broadcast but to which the umpires were oblivious. Is the AFL asserting H is a stager for frees, and is this therefore a staging for free crackdown, if so explain the other end of the ground!

Until our club gets good at posing the hard questions in public forums, we'll continue to suffer this cognitive bias in the outcomes of the game. Again for clarity, this isn't deliberate but it's obviously heavily biased in one direction. It's costing us games to the point that opposition coaches have picked up on it and are putting to their advantage.

Watch Dickos get a free kick for two fingers on his waist, then go back and watch the Filth opponent back to the ball, front on to Cripps, grab Cripps jumper by the collar and frog march him away from the fall of the ball for a play on call! The umpire is standing in the camera field of view watching that happen.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #65 –
I agree Lods. The math ain't mathin' wrt Elijah. There's clearly more to the story than meets the eye.

As to the game, another one where we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. A kid barely out of nappies misses 2 shots on goal, the best player in the comp needs to put on a clinic to get his team over the line, we had one player looking out of sorts, and we lose by 5 points to a coach who is supposedly a master motivator and master tactician.

The only reasonable conclusion from this is that we need a new football department. In fact, I would implore the club to create two new football departments, just to be on the safe side.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #66 –
If we swapped the Daicos bros for the Hollands we would have won by 15 goals.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #67 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Thought Harry was much better this week and was probably infringed every time he went for a mark.
Agree but 1g-4b is 1g-4b not matter how you look at it and its unacceptable from THE key fwd. This isn't a one off, week in week out for a very long time. He is getting to contests, clunking some marks and getting opportunities. The conversion or lack of is a real concern. Kick 4-1 and we win.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #68 –
According to Jon Ralph the clubs official position on Elijah is he had an" off night"...

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #69 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
According to Jon Ralph the clubs official position on Elijah is he had an" off night"...

So he's obviously playing next week then lol.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #70 –
Quote from: MickyO – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
The more I think about out season, the more laughable it becomes. Not only did we capitulate again, we manage to find new ways to shine the spotlight on ourselves and embarrass our club even further. To play a guy whose welfare was clearly compromised is a new low for me. You just could not make this stuff up if you tried. Spare a thought for Ollie as well here, he is watching this from the front row and must be heartbreaking for him.
This!

Can we please park our emotions about Elijah? To me the more i think of it and the vision Ive seen, this is screwing terrifying for that kid. And for the club to put him out and leave him out there in front of 90k, is an absolute disgrace!  As i said previously, I noticed in the first that he didd something odd! Yet hes left on and vilified in the media about having no possessions and having really odd movements! And if I saw it from Row W in the first 10 mins, how the hell did the club let that continue.

And not only that, we throw his brother on the best player in the comp after hes run himself ragged all game, to try and stem Daicos’ influence / which he cant because Daicos was never going to play a complete crap game for his 100th! Now Ollie is getting hammered too.

I wonder if the club did this intentionally, putting and leaving E out there? I just cant see why they did!  I am a hell of a lot angrier about this than the loss!

Ffs!   Poor family! Imagine mum and dad watching this and as you said, poor Ollie on the ground!

Atm i friggen hate this club!

I dont know why Ollie gets lambasted so much by fans.  He isnt a star, and he makes mistakes, but he is a player, going into his 4th year of footy, and delivers a non stop running version of 4 quarter effort, asked to do big roles, does degrees of ok in them, and is on an upward trajectory.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/O/Oliver_Hollands.html

Elijah...  Ive said what I said in the coaches thread.  This guy has troubles, and we have played him in every game this year after delisting him, and from what vision we have seen, his team mates are not enamoured with him either, which means, the guy is in trouble.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #71 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
According to Jon Ralph the clubs official position on Elijah is he had an" off night"...

So he's obviously playing next week then lol.
I wouldnt draw that conclusion, I think its all they can reasonably say without saying anything right now, which is all you would want from the club today.  You wouldnt want any wide sweeping conclusions being made public today.  They have a week to continue it.  Elijah will end up delisted, he is out of contract, but no need to sack him immediately on one poor showing.  This is a good test for all parties. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #72 –
Team mates didn't want a bar of him after the match.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #73 –
Sarcasm Thry
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #74 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
If we swapped the Daicos bros for the Hollands we would have won by 15 goals.
Maybe, but if they played for Carlton they wouldn't be getting the free kicks or the free run in the media, and that would have a hell of an impact.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"