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My only conclusion today EB is that the medical staff thought it best he be out there with his team mates. Up until 3/4 time he spent 84% TOG. They rested him in the forth and ended up on 60%.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 17, 2026, 10:48:05 am

You have to ask what was he doing on the field? We have all this focus on concussion and looking for symptoms, passing tests etc and Elijah clearly wasn't right and even the general public could see he needed help  yet he is allowed to continue.
The AFL should investigate both player and club as it was a serious breach of care imo.
Put yourself in the parents position seeing your son in that state on a football field and it should never happen again...

My only conclusion today EB is that the medical staff thought it best he be out there with his team mates. Up until 3/4 time he spent 84% TOG. They rested him in the forth and ended up on 60%.

Quote from: Bluesers – on April 16, 2026, 10:55:26 pm

Pinging, for sure.    Send him back to rehab.    Another CFC  recruiting success story.    Voss and Austin need to get their resumes ready..       This club is a fn basket case.

"Pinging, for sure." No. Not what I saw, I saw someone disoriented.

IF he has an anxiety issue and on appropriate prescription medication (SSRI?) then given a caffeine tablet... Oh dear!

Just an IF, an alternate explanation to hysterical assumptions and burying the kid.

IF this is the case... well, caffeine is a natural enemy of anxiety and can cause serious side-effects, even disorientation and serotonin syndrome BUT you'd expect the club to be right across that.

Quote from: laj – on April 17, 2026, 10:38:31 am

Looks like it was a mental health issue. Heart rate very elevated throughput the game, sleeping an issue. Looks like one issue we have to be sensitive the way we approach it. Looks like it's a real issue. Not sure if he is manic/depressive and we got a manic episode last night. As I said,  I remember Rhett Baynes.

Addiction is a mental health issue im told. Just a nicer way of saying it

Quote from: Baggers – on April 17, 2026, 08:40:01 am

"Pinging, for sure." No. Not what I saw, I saw someone disoriented.

IF he has an anxiety issue and on appropriate prescription medication (SSRI?) then given a caffeine tablet... Oh dear!

Just an IF, an alternate explanation to hysterical assumptions and burying the kid.

IF this is the case... well, caffeine is a natural enemy of anxiety and can cause serious side-effects, even disorientation and serotonin syndrome BUT you'd expect the club to be right across that.

I'm not aware of any hysterical assumptions,  but we can only make  assumptions based on what we saw and heard from that game and the vision of his behaviour is definitely of a person acting very abnormally.    Serious questions need to be asked of CFC coaches as to why they allowed him to be onfield for 90 minutes in that state...   Surely they, and/or some of the senior players must've noticed his unusual behaviour way before 3/4 time.    He is damaged goods and should never have been re-signed.    Once again MV must take responsibilty for this fiasco - he should fall on his sword before he is pushed...

Just watched the whole game, which I don't usually do when we lose, but I had to make sure about whether Hollands did get a kick in and I think the only time it may have happened was in the 3rd around the HBF boundary line where there was a scramble and the ball ended up going over the line. He may have got a feather kick in there but definitely not 100% on that. Also while he was responsible for the 1st 666 warning he was on the bench when the 2nd infringement (which ultimately resulted in a goal) occurred.
Still he did look a bit "weird" during general play. He was waving around his arms nearly all game? Very strange.
Thought for most of the game we once again had a crack but the same old problems surfaced. Ball use, decision making, accuracy in front of goal, broken tackles and bad coaching.

No Harry this week, which is a shame as he had a good game (apart from the goal kicking) I thought so can see us getting a spanking against Freo.

I would sound out Mark Williams and hire him as:
- Our kicking coach
- A mentor for Elijah
He did it with Dusty (mentoring) and knows how to teach kicking. We are the worst kicking team in the comp and it needs specialist assistance and he is the best in the business. The other person is the dude Petracca hired but I dont know how it is.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on April 17, 2026, 11:00:01 am

My only conclusion today EB is that the medical staff thought it best he be out there with his team mates. Up until 3/4 time he spent 84% TOG. They rested him in the forth and ended up on 60%.

That is probably the answer, they thought it would help him. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been the correct call.
The question then is obvious: was there a better option? Who decides?

Quote from: Bluesers – on April 17, 2026, 11:07:18 am

I'm not aware of any hysterical assumptions,  but we can only make  assumptions based on what we saw and heard from that game and the vision of his behaviour is definitely of a person acting very abnormally.    Serious questions need to be asked of CFC coaches as to why they allowed him to be onfield for 90 minutes in that state...   Surely they, and/or some of the senior players must've noticed his unusual behaviour way before 3/4 time.    He is damaged goods and should never have been re-signed.    Once again MV must take responsibilty for this fiasco - he should fall on his sword before he is pushed...

Voss is ultimately responsible, but I think its not fair to lay this at his feet.  Elijah is an adult, responsible for himself.  Where are the leaders in the team making sure this gets the appropriate attention?  Where are the line coaches under Voss telling him that Elijah is not right to play?

Why is the senior coach the one who is in the gun here for the failings of every level?

Our club is a disgrace off field.  Its all good, Brian Cook fixed us...  The club has systemic issues that sit outside of the coach regarding standards, and behaviour, and about the only person exhibiting the right stuff is the guy in the coaches box.