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Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #180 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Good to see Ollie F getting a nod. Both him and his good buddy Hayward must be wondering what they've got themselves into.

Both probably had their best games for the club, so possibly they needed some settling in time under match conditions.
I do wonder what they think about the differences they're seeing between us and the Swans.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #181 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Quote from: PaulP – on
Good to see Ollie F getting a nod. Both him and his good buddy Hayward must be wondering what they've got themselves into.

Both probably had their best games for the club, so possibly they needed some settling in time under match conditions.
I do wonder what they think about the differences they're seeing between us and the Swans.
If I understand correctly, the Swans players are very hard and demanding of each other. I thats so, I would hope Will and Ollie have brought that with them because from an a outsider, god only knows we need some serious internal challening of one another. Especially on game do when the tide turned against us. Might be drawing a vey long bow here but perhaps there is a link between Will's and Ollie's very good games and Voss's presser comment that we put a full stop on the Coll run and fought it to the end.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #182 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
It reeks of double standards to make excuses for Clarkson at North, but not Voss. If Vossy's first 3 seasons yielded a W/L of 3-10 (plus 10 straight losses under Ratts as fill-in), 3-20 and 5-1-17, folks on here would not give any coach the BOD, whatever their previous records says. They would be screaming blue murder.
Clarko started where Bolton did here. Voss was employed to make finals from the start. Not a good comparison. Give him his due, he did that (first year near enough), but we have won 11 from the last 38, the game has evolved but Vossy hasn't. Getting outcoached on a weekly basis. It's obvious it's not going to happen under him now. Sometimes it's hard to tell if we have a crap club or the coach isn't performing, but sadly, when results aren't happening, the message is obviously not resonating. Happens quicker here than at other clubs unfortunately. Richmond changed coaches 7000 times in 30 years before the right one come along, with some help from Neil Blame as Footy Manager, and sorted things out. With it come the culture. Sometimes that's your only choice, keep changing until it happens. Not fun, but keeping the status quo won't change anything either.
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #183 –
Quote from: laj – on
the game has evolved but Vossy hasn't.
Let's be straight about this, our 2026 game plan is radically different, and every other clubs, forced on clubs by the AFL and it's fiddling with the rules and umpiring.

Only a handful of clubs have lists suited to the current rules and game style, and even those clubs are going to be in a race of attrition.

Fans rallying against the loses are blamming a lack of change but it's a false premise. If people want to argue against a coach, player or management, at least use some facts.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"