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Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #30 –
Watching the replay there was more than a fair bit of luck regarding Bolton's last quarter of winning the footy, actually more than once it ricocheted off other players to fall in his lap. But in contrast to us, when he got the lucky possession he used it, he did not waste it.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #31 –
Not being able to hit targets, especially by hand, ball handling errors, decision making, not getting all the umpiring decisions, missing tackles, especially in the centre square, consistently dumping long kicks where we are out numbered and out sized, and missing too many gettable goals was the reason we lost.
I think Cripps' hands are too slow and too often too many players think too long about what they are going to do which allows our opponents to shut down the space and increase the pressure on us. Our players also don't give off the hand ball every time ,there was one instance when Reidy was running out of the centre square and Cripps was running next to him and calling for the ball but Reidy kicked it instead, we finished up with a goal but too often this isn't the case. We don't look wide when going into the forward fifty, and we don't go short often enough, which allows the opposition defenders to mass in the middle around the top of the goal square because they know that's where the ball is going.
We were outclassed most of the night but the players kept at it and the reason we got goals late was because Fremantle couldn't keep the pace up.
I thought Moir kept Pearce quiet for three quarters, who is their best defender, and was able to kick a couple when McGovern took him in the last  quarter. He has got good skills. I think Carroll has improved out of sight but needs to improve his kicking into the forward fifty. Dean probably needs a rest, as does Byrne, while Cowan isn't getting near the ball at the moment,  and I still don't know what the point of Cerra is.
It was probably our most consistent effort so far this year.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #32 –
Voss said in the press conference that we are better now than what we were 4 weeks ago.
The problem is, so is everyone else!!!

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #33 –
Coaches' votes :

9 Shai Bolton (FRE)
9 Luke Jackson (FRE)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
4 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
2 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
1 Brodie Kemp (CARL)

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #34 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Coaches' votes :

9 Shai Bolton (FRE)
9 Luke Jackson (FRE)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
4 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
2 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
1 Brodie Kemp (CARL)
Says it all.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #35 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Says it all.

In a way, yes. I was pleased to see equal representation - 3 players each from Freo and Carlton. That hasn't always been the case this season. Shai Bolton is obviously a few years older than in the Richmond premiership years, but is still a threat and can tear it up when he wants to. And Jackson is coming into his own.

Walshy has polled in pretty much every game from memory.

And on a side note, I see Charlie Curnow scored a perfect 10. Lucky us.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #36 –
Any chance we could have borrowed Ed's Farm this week? We need another dam session.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #37 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Coaches' votes :

9 Shai Bolton (FRE)
9 Luke Jackson (FRE)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
4 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
2 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
1 Brodie Kemp (CARL)
Pretty accurate
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #38 –
Quote from: LP – on
Watching the replay there was more than a fair bit of luck regarding Bolton's last quarter of winning the footy, actually more than once it ricocheted off other players to fall in his lap. But in contrast to us, when he got the lucky possession he used it, he did not waste it.

Bolton always creeps forward of the stoppage and is always seemingly on his own if they win the ball.  Surely we should have known this, and always had someone goal side of him.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #39 –
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
Bolton always creeps forward of the stoppage and is always seemingly on his own if they win the ball.  Surely we should have known this, and always had someone goal side of him.
Well I think the intent was to try and make sure the pill didn't get to him in the first place rather than try to compete with him in a 50/50. More than once he only got the pill because of dead set luck. If not for a severe crooked bounce or a massive ricochet we would have prevented it successfully several times, we did prevent it several times but not every time. Even so Bolton's use of the ball once he gets it was impressive, to me that justifies the coaching votes. I can't tell you if that was normal for Bolton or a night out.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #40 –
Another disappointing result but there were some positives.

First of all, Luke Jackson has to be in career best form.  Some may categorise him as an "undersized" ruckman but he seems to have the ideal combination of size and agility.  The combination of Jackson and Mason Cox seems to work very well and I'm not sure what Freo will do with Sean Darcy.  Despite Jackson's dominance, I thought that Liam Reidy was very good for us and was more than competitive.  His ruckwork was good and he had an impact around the ground.  He has quick hands and reacts quickly and I think that he could develop into a very handy ruckman.

We got absolutely smashed in the clearances in the first quarter but turned that around and won the clearances for the next three quarters.  The quarter time adjustments made a difference.

Sam Walsh was brilliant and it's great to see him powering away from opponents.

Brodie Kemp played what must be his best game as a key forward, against quality opposition and without much support.  It was good to see him make the most of his chances and that would be heartening for those who worked hard to get the ball to him.

Aston Moir had a quiet night but kicked truly when he got the pill.  I don't think that he'll ever be a high possession player but I'll take it if he can chime in with a couple of goals each week.

Matt Carroll has really come on and is relishing his role on the wing.  I think that we're getting better value from him there, particularly with his ability to kick truly for goal or hit a target.

Nic Newman is getting back to his best.  We really missed his defensive efforts and ability to transition the ball from defence.  Matt Cottrell's return was a little unexpected but well worth it.  I'm not sure what it is about Cotters; he's a little unorthodox and works extremely hard.

We've got at least half a dozen blokes in the VFL side bashing on the MC's door and three or four changes this week wouldn't surprise me.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #41 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Brodie Kemp played what must be his best game as a key forward, against quality opposition and without much support.  It was good to see him make the most of his chances and that would be heartening for those who worked hard to get the ball to him.

Aston Moir had a quiet night but kicked truly when he got the pill.  I don't think that he'll ever be a high possession player but I'll take it if he can chime in with a couple of goals each week.
I'm rapidly losing interest in Moir for the reason he seems to impart a massive work-load on those around him. He's so laconic he often looks disinterested and appears to be going half-hearted at the contest.

Contrast that to Kemp, who despite having a wretched run of form has never really stopped working hard, and perhaps last weekend he saw a pay-off for effort. Hopefully he can rinse and repeat.

Excluding when Kemp has taken out a team-mate, the contrast in contribution to team work ethic between Kemp and Moir is striking!

I often direct criticism at Young, but at least this season he tries even if he fails, I'm not sure that was always the case, that is all that can be asked of a player. If players like that can be coached into turning effort into success, then kudos to the coaching staff.

But, I can't ever forgive someone who gives up at least trying.

If I walked off next to Kemp I'd be thinking at least he tried hard, if I walked off next to Moir I'd be thinking he must be reasting up for a bucks party!

PS; I realise my perception is not reality, I can't help but see what I see.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #42 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: DJC – on
Brodie Kemp played what must be his best game as a key forward, against quality opposition and without much support.  It was good to see him make the most of his chances and that would be heartening for those who worked hard to get the ball to him.

Aston Moir had a quiet night but kicked truly when he got the pill.  I don't think that he'll ever be a high possession player but I'll take it if he can chime in with a couple of goals each week.
I'm rapidly losing interest in Moir for the reason he seems to impart a massive work-load on those around him. He's so laconic he often looks disinterested and appears to be going half-hearted at the contest.

Contrast that to Kemp, who despite having a wretched run of form has never really stopped working hard, and perhaps last weekend he saw a pay-off for effort. Hopefully he can rinse and repeat.

Excluding when Kemp has taken out a team-mate, the contrast in contribution to team work ethic between Kemp and Moir is striking!

I often direct criticism at Young, but at least this season he tries even if he fails, I'm not sure that was always the case, that is all that can be asked of a player. If players like that can be coached into turning effort into success, then kudos to the coaching staff.

But, I can't ever forgive someone who gives up at least trying.

If I walked off next to Kemp I'd be thinking at least he tried hard, if I walked off next to Moir I'd be thinking he must be reasting up for a bucks party!
He looks like a player that doesnt want to be in Melb and will be looking for a trade back to Adelaide.
Rachele for Moir, done deal.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #43 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
He looks like a player that doesnt want to be in Melb and will be looking for a trade back to Adelaide.
At the moment there may be a few on our list with that type of mindset, but you make real what you believe!

If you cross that line with disinterest and dread, disinterest and dread is what you'll get!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #44 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
He looks like a player that doesnt want to be in Melb and will be looking for a trade back to Adelaide.
At the moment there may be a few on our list with that type of mindset, but you make real what you believe!

If you cross that line with disinterest and dread, disinterest and dread is what you'll get!
I saw a video of Cottrell talking about Ainsworth. THATS the type of player we need at our club. The Application form should have 4 questions:
1. Can you run fast?
2. Can you kick well?
3. Do you want to win?
4. Are you a Kent?
If you answered yes to all 4, welcome to the CFC and you will be considered for the captaincy.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership